Posts by slimboyfat

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New World Translation REVISED Editions

by Wonderment in

i have noticed some posters (with frustration) asking for information regarding the nwt in various language editions.

here is a list of some of the nwt revised language editions published so far:.

albanian; arabic; armenian; chinese traditional 2017; danish 2017; dutch-netherlands 2017; estonian; haitian creole; italian 2017; korean 2014; modern greek 2017; norwegian 2017; portuguese 2015; romanian; russian; swahili 2017; swedish 2017; ukrainian; vietnamese.. not yet published: .

slimboyfat

I have been told that in Germany the new literature contains the new wording of a the revised version that hasn’t been released yet. So the scriptures quoted in the literature doesn’t match the wording of the NWT version they use either in print or online. Can anyone in Germany confirm that?

If so it seems the new German version is complete but hasn’t been printed and distributed, similar to rumours about the Spanish version having been completed years ago.

Sir82 the fact is there were around 200 million copies of the old NWT printed between 1950 and 2013 when the number of JWs averaged around 3 million over the whole period. So how many copies would be needed between 2013 and 2018 when there are over 8 million JWs? I think 50 million is a reasonable estimate. I personally have three copies of the 2013 NWT in English and two foreign language versions. I think it’s very common for JWs to have a few copies of the Bible each, and to replace them periodically as well.

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New World Translation REVISED Editions

by Wonderment in

i have noticed some posters (with frustration) asking for information regarding the nwt in various language editions.

here is a list of some of the nwt revised language editions published so far:.

albanian; arabic; armenian; chinese traditional 2017; danish 2017; dutch-netherlands 2017; estonian; haitian creole; italian 2017; korean 2014; modern greek 2017; norwegian 2017; portuguese 2015; romanian; russian; swahili 2017; swedish 2017; ukrainian; vietnamese.. not yet published: .

slimboyfat

The reason the NWT was released in English (and Korean and Portuguese) was apparently timing. These versions were printed and ready to go before the financial crisis hit Watchtower in 2015.

The question you’ve got to ask is, how bad must the financial position be that they need to sudden sell off branches, send bethelites home, cancel the yearbook, and even cancel Bibles in languages that are apparently already completed.

If Watchtlwer can’t afford to print Bibles now, will they ever be able to print them? Lawsuits are mounting, members are decreasing in rich countries and increasing poor countries. If they are already in trouble now, what is it going to be like next year, and the year after that? How can they turn it around?

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New World Translation REVISED Editions

by Wonderment in

i have noticed some posters (with frustration) asking for information regarding the nwt in various language editions.

here is a list of some of the nwt revised language editions published so far:.

albanian; arabic; armenian; chinese traditional 2017; danish 2017; dutch-netherlands 2017; estonian; haitian creole; italian 2017; korean 2014; modern greek 2017; norwegian 2017; portuguese 2015; romanian; russian; swahili 2017; swedish 2017; ukrainian; vietnamese.. not yet published: .

slimboyfat

It was the new translation because one of the contentions was the insertion of "Jehovah" in the NT.

The old version would have had Jehovah in the NT as well, no?

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New World Translation REVISED Editions

by Wonderment in

i have noticed some posters (with frustration) asking for information regarding the nwt in various language editions.

here is a list of some of the nwt revised language editions published so far:.

albanian; arabic; armenian; chinese traditional 2017; danish 2017; dutch-netherlands 2017; estonian; haitian creole; italian 2017; korean 2014; modern greek 2017; norwegian 2017; portuguese 2015; romanian; russian; swahili 2017; swedish 2017; ukrainian; vietnamese.. not yet published: .

slimboyfat

Wonderment there have been no charges for literature anywhere since 2000 at the latest.

I wonder about some of the obscure language releases too. I wonder how many copies of the 2013 NWT have actually been printed in Gun, Ewe and Amharic, for example. Probably some Bibles have been printed in these obscure languages, but perhaps not promoted for general circulation. Even in English the Bibles are not as ubiquitous as they used to be. There is definite pressure to use all literature online rather than print copies, including the Bible.

If their financial position is as bad as I suspect it is they may not be able to afford to print more Bibles in other languages, or even in English.

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JW's are slaves- but not in a good way

by joey jojo in

i was reading about the american slave trade again recently.

as anyone who has read anything about the subject knows, it makes for very uncomfortable reading.

every time i read the history, i'm left with a sense of outrage and seething anger at the pure inhumanity and injustice of what life must have been like for those people.

slimboyfat

Morph, don’t want to alarm you, but you’re missing a good collapse thread.

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Do you miss that initial "high" ??

by stuckinarut2 in

do you remember the first time you found out "the truth about the truth"?.

yes, it was confronting, shocking and life altering.

yes it was hard to deal with.. but, along with that, many have said that they experienced a sense of thrill, euphoria, or joy when realising the facts about the religion that held us captive mentally and physically for so long.. it was liberating to learn some of the controversial teachings etc.

slimboyfat

I wouldn’t describe it as a high. I do remember reading Apocalypse Delayed, CofC and anything else if could get my hands on late into the night. In fact for days on end with little interruption. But also Bible topics and research too.

Mind you, I still read quite a lot.

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New World Translation REVISED Editions

by Wonderment in

i have noticed some posters (with frustration) asking for information regarding the nwt in various language editions.

here is a list of some of the nwt revised language editions published so far:.

albanian; arabic; armenian; chinese traditional 2017; danish 2017; dutch-netherlands 2017; estonian; haitian creole; italian 2017; korean 2014; modern greek 2017; norwegian 2017; portuguese 2015; romanian; russian; swahili 2017; swedish 2017; ukrainian; vietnamese.. not yet published: .

slimboyfat

The only reasonable explanation for the delay is cost.

As far as I can make out, there are only four languages with the 2013 NWT that have more than 100,000 JWs: English, Portuguese, Korean and Italian. English and Portuguese versions were released in 2015 before the financial crisis struck. Korean was released even earlier.

Languages with more than 100,000 JWs that have no new Bible include: Spanish, French, German, Polish, Russian, Japanese, Tagalog.

There is no conceivable reason why these languages should take years longer to produce than Gun, Ewe, Amharic, Dutch and so on, other than cost.

Plus rumours that the German and Spanish translations are completed by not released.

They are probably wondering if they can get away with releasing Spanish, German, French and so on as digital only. They may have no other choice.

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New World Translation REVISED Editions

by Wonderment in

i have noticed some posters (with frustration) asking for information regarding the nwt in various language editions.

here is a list of some of the nwt revised language editions published so far:.

albanian; arabic; armenian; chinese traditional 2017; danish 2017; dutch-netherlands 2017; estonian; haitian creole; italian 2017; korean 2014; modern greek 2017; norwegian 2017; portuguese 2015; romanian; russian; swahili 2017; swedish 2017; ukrainian; vietnamese.. not yet published: .

slimboyfat

Same in Germany paradiseseeker, there were rumours that the new NWT was ready to go, and a similar announcement at the convention that “we don’t have it”.

They cant afford it! There can be no other explanation.

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New World Translation REVISED Editions

by Wonderment in

i have noticed some posters (with frustration) asking for information regarding the nwt in various language editions.

here is a list of some of the nwt revised language editions published so far:.

albanian; arabic; armenian; chinese traditional 2017; danish 2017; dutch-netherlands 2017; estonian; haitian creole; italian 2017; korean 2014; modern greek 2017; norwegian 2017; portuguese 2015; romanian; russian; swahili 2017; swedish 2017; ukrainian; vietnamese.. not yet published: .

slimboyfat

Maybe the NWT 2013 will never be released in Spanish. The only reason for delay I can think is cost. And you need to ask yourself, is Watchtower’s financial position likely to improve or worsen in the coming months and years? From every possible angle (assets already sold, abuse claims mounting, donations down because no literature) their finances are going to get worse not better. So if they can’t afford to print the NWT in Spanish now, when will they ever be able to afford it?

It would be a startling admission of financial collapse if they can’t print the Bible in Spanish and other languages. But the withdrawal of the Yearbook after 90 years continuous publication was also undoubtedly due to cost.

i wonder when the latest copies of the Bible in English were printed? These may stop being produced soon too.

Unless Watchtower has some sort of dramatic reversal of course. But I don’t see where it would come from at the moment.

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New World Translation REVISED Editions

by Wonderment in

i have noticed some posters (with frustration) asking for information regarding the nwt in various language editions.

here is a list of some of the nwt revised language editions published so far:.

albanian; arabic; armenian; chinese traditional 2017; danish 2017; dutch-netherlands 2017; estonian; haitian creole; italian 2017; korean 2014; modern greek 2017; norwegian 2017; portuguese 2015; romanian; russian; swahili 2017; swedish 2017; ukrainian; vietnamese.. not yet published: .

slimboyfat

No Japanese, Polish, Russian or Tagalog either, all languages with large numbers of JWs.

It’s difficult to escape the conclusion that Watchtower is avoiding printing the NWT in major languages. I think this must be for reasons of cost. I can’t think of any other reason the NWT can be translated into Gun, Ewe and Amharic, and so on, but not into Spanish, German, French, Japanese, Tagalog, Russian, Polish.

In fact the only major languages outside English (in terms of JW numbers) I would say are Italian and Portuguese. In the case of Portuguese it was released the same time as English, before the financial crisis struck. So even the exceptions prove the rule.

The case for financial crisis mounts.