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  The JC won't tell the wife about her husband's adultery

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  still reading the shepard the flock book and came across this gem (!)....

  "13. if the husband committed adultery, he.

  judicial committee should promptly inquire of the.

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  slimboyfat

  Holding it over someone’s head would be wrong. But other scenarios are possible.

  In a normal relationship, without JW rules, the wife may continue to sleep with the husband in the hope that their relationship can survive, but discover within a few weeks or months that they cannot remain together. In this scenario no one has held anything over anyone’s head, they have made a genuine attempt to remain together. The only problem is the price the JW now pays for separating is to remain single and wait until they become “free to marry” if that ever happens, through no fault of their own.
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  The JC won't tell the wife about her husband's adultery

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  still reading the shepard the flock book and came across this gem (!)....

  "13. if the husband committed adultery, he.

  judicial committee should promptly inquire of the.

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  slimboyfat

  But can you read the writing on the wall, for Watchtower?
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  The JC won't tell the wife about her husband's adultery

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  still reading the shepard the flock book and came across this gem (!)....

  "13. if the husband committed adultery, he.

  judicial committee should promptly inquire of the.

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  slimboyfat

  My reading of the comments is that elders should tell the wife about the fact of adultery but not about the details.

  In practice it is not surprising, as was contramundum’s experice, that some elders don’t tell the wife anything at all.

  Why have JWs got to act so furtively in everything they do?
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  The Attack by Gog of Magog: 2018 Convention

  by jwdoctrine in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the attack by gog of magog with commentary watch to the end.

  talk from the 2018 convention .watch till the end.

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  slimboyfat

  Is it Gog of Magog

  Or Gog and Magog?

  I always get confused.
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  Views on the golden ratio??

  by Freedom rocks in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what are your views on the golden ratio or fibonacci sequence?

  i know jws and some other groups use this as proof of gods existence.

  i'm still looking into the debate but was wondering what others thought.

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  slimboyfat

  How can anyone look at the deep structure of reality
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  Healing & Rebuilding Your Life - Feedback Wanted

  by jp1692 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have been invited to speak at an international cultic studies association workshop this fall.

  i could use your help in focusing on my presentation subject.. these workshops are for former members of any cult or other high-control, authoritarian group, not just jehovah's witnesses.

  last year, i spoke at one of their larger conferences in europe.

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  slimboyfat

  I agree that shunning and isolation are the biggest obstacles. More important than all the other things mentioned. I don’t consider critical thinking a hardship. I think I used it inside and outside JWs and always felt comfortable doing so.

  I also have big problems with the idea of “authentic self”. Basically I don’t think there is any such thing. We have the ability to change due to circumstance or effort or necessity to some extent. But I don’t know that it is helpful to label this or that “authentic”. In fact if I was to pick my most “authentic” self ever, it might be me as a 14 year old boy who loved going on the ministry and was totally convinced this was the truth. That was completely authentic for me at the time. I was happy and comfortable in a way I have never been since. It would not be “authentic” for me now, because I have changed.

  Anyway, I find the idea that JW life is inauthentic and the new existence outside of the religion is authentic to be problematic, in that I find it to be neither true nor helpful.
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  Direction to elders on handling rape

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  from the shepard the flock book.

  "discernment is needed in considering claims.

  of rape, taking into consideration such factors as the.

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  slimboyfat

  The wording is ambiguous to the point of being meaningless. Is the disposition of the person to be taken into consideration in order to care for their wellbeing or in order to judge their trustworthiness? I think it might be ambiguous on purpose.
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  No new releases? How are the r&f taking this?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  is it true that there's been no new releases at this summer's convention?

  if so it will be the first convention in decades perhaps ever to not produce at least a new tract.. how are the r&f explaining this to eachother?

  surely they must have noticed the absence?

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  Sparrow, did you miss the fact that this year’s video drama looks considerably “cheaper” than last year? Plus they cancelled two whole broadcasting episodes in the winter and sent out filler bethel talks instead. Again, not because they are short of money or anything.

  Watchower is cutting back so rapidly they’re even cutting back on video output even as they are moving from print to video.

  I am reading a book called “Wilful Blindness” at the moment. The lengths people go to avoid seeing the obvious is amazing. In this case we have dozens of Watchtower cutbacks, plus statements (public and leaked private) saying they are short of money, plus a mountain of circumstantial evidence. Yet still some people think it’s all a mistake or deception and really Watchtower is still doing great business!
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  No new releases? How are the r&f taking this?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  is it true that there's been no new releases at this summer's convention?

  if so it will be the first convention in decades perhaps ever to not produce at least a new tract.. how are the r&f explaining this to eachother?

  surely they must have noticed the absence?

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  slimboyfat

  They released the new Jonah video, what are you talking about? There’s never been so much spiritual food released as there is now.

  Plus any suggestion of Watchtower financial difficulty is clearly ludicrous.
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  Why our IQ levels are higher than our grandparents'

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vpqilhw9ui.

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  slimboyfat

  When waton said intelligent women have fewer children, I think he meant on average. That seems a reasonable inference, and is not invalidated by one intelligent woman having a number of children.