Very interesting to see this latest video, thanks. I’m probably one of the few people who has read practically everything Greg Stafford has published (in books and online), although admittedly my interest has dropped off in recent years. I think he’s had a tough time and I have often wondered what his ultimate goal is now in promoting selected JW beliefs independently of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Falling between two stools, and so largely neglected as irrelevant, can’t be a terribly comfortable place to be.
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Latest on Greg Stafford
by Nitty-Gritty infor all those who know who greg stafford is/was.
the former "apostate/apologist and author of three dissertations and other books, is on page 2 of the march 2016 meeting work book.
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/jw-meeting-workbook/march-2016-mwb/meeting-schedule-mar7-13/welcome-memorial-guests/.
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Cambridge professor just went full retard ...
by LoveUniHateExams inever heard of david runciman?.
he's a professor of politics at the university of cambridge, no less.. he's also a complete retard, for want of a better word.
according to prof. runciman, six year old children should get the vote, so as to counteract britain's aging population.
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slimboyfat
In the earlier post you mentioned the age when you are legally responsible for your actions (10) and in the later post you talked about the age of consent (16) and to buy alcohol (18).
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Cambridge professor just went full retard ...
by LoveUniHateExams inever heard of david runciman?.
he's a professor of politics at the university of cambridge, no less.. he's also a complete retard, for want of a better word.
according to prof. runciman, six year old children should get the vote, so as to counteract britain's aging population.
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slimboyfat
What is the age of legal responsibility? Is it 10 in England and 12 in Scotland?
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Cambridge professor just went full retard ...
by LoveUniHateExams inever heard of david runciman?.
he's a professor of politics at the university of cambridge, no less.. he's also a complete retard, for want of a better word.
according to prof. runciman, six year old children should get the vote, so as to counteract britain's aging population.
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slimboyfat
I responded to a comment about Dawkins and to the original post about children voting. (I added this later you may have missed it) Is that a problem?
Not only is the Cambridge professor a retard for exploring a radical idea, but my response doesn’t meet the specifications for the debate either.
Say LUHE would the world be a simpler place if you would just tell us what we can say without being retards or deviating from the script and we’ll just repeat after you?
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Cambridge professor just went full retard ...
by LoveUniHateExams inever heard of david runciman?.
he's a professor of politics at the university of cambridge, no less.. he's also a complete retard, for want of a better word.
according to prof. runciman, six year old children should get the vote, so as to counteract britain's aging population.
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slimboyfat
I missed the Cofty episode where Dawkins transformed from a wise oracle to being tragically out of touch. What gives? Have Peterson, Harris, Dennett and others suffered a similar fate?
Plus I welcome radical ideas because they make you check your assumptions. I just don’t see the worth in labelling people “retard” just for thinking outside the box.
To me the important thing about voting is that it’s voluntary and the person has the ability to make their own decision. Most children don’t care about voting or may rely upon parents if asked to make a decision. Those are the main problems with children voting as I see it. But if there are a few children who want to vote and have their own ideas about who they want to vote for, on what basis do I say they are not allowed? It’s not such an easy question to answer really, because many adults lack such interest or independence yet they have the right anyway. Do we say they are not allowed just because they are children and for no other reason?
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The Noble Fir
by Oubliette inthe noble fir.
the fir tree stands silently in the corner of our living room: proud, erect, strong.
even unadorned, it is beautiful.
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slimboyfat
Yes oubliette was a good poster.
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What JW Beliefs Did You Find Difficult To Explain?
by minimus inthere are a lot.
anything blood related was difficult to reasonably prove from a witness perspective.. 1914 was another one.
what can you add to the list?
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slimboyfat
Hands down the overlapping generation. I can’t even explain how it’s meant to work in theory never mind explain it from the point of view of someone who believes it. It’s got to be some sort of joke, no? Although I admit I fail to see the funny side.
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Shocking Example of JW Elder Corruption
by Roger Kirkpatrick inlet's play a game of believe it or not, shall we?
i'll relate a story, and you decide whether you believe it or not.
what would you think of an elder who told his daughter's fiance that he would kill him if he ever did anything to hurt his daughter?
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slimboyfat
This doesn’t strike me a particularly shocking to be honest. The age wouldn’t even be illegal in the UK. And if they ended up happily married where is the problem? Would it be better if they had been publicly shamed, shunned, relationship ruined and so on. Would that be less of a scandal?
The only problematic angle is that such common sense is often not extended to individuals without important connections. But that’s the problem, not the action itself. Am I way out or what?
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Connections between Christadelphians and Russell´s Biblestudents
by oppostate inthe bible students and the christadelphians have a lot in common.. i searched on facebook... .
and look what i found:https://www.facebook.com/christadelphianbiblestudents/.
there´s even a group named like that..
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slimboyfat
The vast majority of members of the Iglesia ni Cristo Church live in the Philippines, and those congregations in other countries largely comprise migrants from the Philippines.
If you think JWs are controlling then Iglesia ni Cristo are even more so.
Other groups that are a bit similar to JWs worth checking out include the New Apostolic Church and Grace Communion International. Both these groups were sectarian in the past but have moved considerably more mainstream. In the case of Grace Communion Internarional they now accept the Trinity and they really emphasise this in their meetings. They often sing a song “we worship you God in Trinity” and they make frequent refenreces to the Trinity in sermons and prayers. In the case of the New Apostolic Church they are now at pains to emphasise that they do not regard their church as infallible or the only true church and state this often in their meetings.
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Connections between Christadelphians and Russell´s Biblestudents
by oppostate inthe bible students and the christadelphians have a lot in common.. i searched on facebook... .
and look what i found:https://www.facebook.com/christadelphianbiblestudents/.
there´s even a group named like that..
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slimboyfat
The Christadelphian rejection of a personal devil is often cited as the main difference between JWs and Christadelphians.
What I’ve found interesting is that some of the apparent similarities between JWs and Christadelphians are not as clear cut when you look at the details.
For example both JWs and Christadelphians refuse to vote in elections. But when you look at the explanations for that stance, then clear differences emerge. JWs are essentially disinterested when it comes to politics. Many JWs are uncomfortable if the subject is discussed at all, even if no particular political views are promoted. They don’t vote in elections because they believe that Jehovah does not approve of any political leaders in this system and therefore Christians should not be interested in politics. Christadelphians on the other hand believe that God actively manoeuvres events in the world including elections and rulers and political developments. The reason Christadelphians don’t vote is because they worry they may vote for the wrong person “against the will of God”, so they abstain and stand aside to allow God to work out his plan. Christadelphians even believe that God uses the weather in order to shape world events including elections. One Christadelphian told me he believes that God sent poor weather during the EU referendum in order to get a Brexit result. As zionists Christadelphians are also intensely interested in events in Israel/Palestine and how they relate to prophecy and God’s plan. JWs on the other hand tend to ignore the details of political events, preferring to see the whole shape of the news as evidence the system of things is getting worse leading up to Armageddon.
Christadelphians and JWs also reject the Trinity and do not believe that Jesus is almighty God. But once again that is pretty much where the similarities end. Christadelphians believe that Jesus came into existence as a human on earth and did not have a prehuman life as an angel. They do not believe that Jesus is the archangel Michael. While JWs and Christadelphians both oppose the Trinity as a false post-biblical teaching, JWs are closer (although not identical, as they point out) to Arianism whereas Christadelphians are Socinians.
One area where JWs and Christadelphians appear to be in simple agreement is over rejection of the immortal soul in favour of soul sleep and awaiting resurrection to a paradise earth. They both reject hell as a literal place of torment.
And another difference, of course, is over the divine name. Christadelphian hymns sometimes use the name Jehovah, and individual Christadelphians will use the name Jehovah or Yahweh, but not to the extent as JWs or as the unique name of God.