https://tinyurl.com/y2bzncu9.
Could I point out that this letter is addressed to Britain and Ireland, not England and Ireland - for some of us, not a trivial distinction.
The letter says you can “arrange a return visit” but you are not allowed to record their name or address. How are you supposed to do that?
https://tinyurl.com/y2bzncu9.
Presumably they have sent letters to foreign language congregations to explain how on earth this is supposed to work. Or will they just leave them to their own devices?
I can imagine a lot of pioneers being quite distressed about the pointlessness of ministry after this change. And pioneers in foreign language congregations times ten. They will feel confused and abandoned.
Watchtower must have been pretty scared of being fined to make this change.
https://tinyurl.com/y2bzncu9.
Stopping not at homes will be a relief, and not a big deal. But how is the ministry supposed to function without taking notes for return visits? It doesn’t seem feasible. Who would want to pioneer when there is not even the prospect of making progress with calls?
Are publishers even allowed to ask the householder if they can take a note for a return visit. The letter doesn’t make any allowance for that. Apparently it’s no notes at all! Did I pick up right, that they are allowed to give householders their phone numbers? But how many householders are going to take the initiative to contact? Zero, I suspect. And what publisher wants to hand out their number to first calls anyway? Unless to arrange a rendezvous, which does happen I suppose. My imagination is getting carried away.
And how are foreign language congregations supposed to locate and visit people in the target language? It seems impossible.
i just finished the barb anderson video linked here:.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5430694403637248/interesting-interview-barbra-anderson.
of course, a lot is present there, but one thing hit me.
That struck me too, among others details in an extraordinary interview. (Comments on Franz, Jaracz, Knorr and Peolyan, among others)
I don’t think Anderson mentioned her source for this information about a 10 year plan, though no doubt it’s good. There have been a few comments on this forum over the years about such a plan: those could have been genuine leaks that have partially filtered out.
At the same time, just because they had a plan in 2004, doesn’t mean they had all the details worked out back then, or that everything necessarily went to plan. In some ways there is evidence that the plan predates 2004, since GB members are known to have commented, following 9/11 in New York, “we’re getting out of here in case that happens again”. And the move upstate has been a huge change,
The GB in 2004 couldn’t have predicted the importance of tablet devices, the iPhone/iPad not having been invented yet, which has been a major driver of their move to digital and away from print. They also appear to have been overtaken by financial crisis in 2015, indicating that the extent of their cutbacks was not entirely anticipated as early as 2004. Plus they presumably did not plan to handle the abuse issue quite as badly as they have in the Australian Royal Commision and elsewhere, which has been a pressure for change and downscaling.
And Jaracz was still in charge in 2004. Was this his plan? Did the plan change at all after he died?
some say mark zuckerberg is the most powerful person in the world.
some maintain the president of the united states is the most powerful or other political leaders.
who do you think is number one on the planet?
Che jing ping, don’t think I’ve got the spelling right
i always tended to avoid using the word 'cult' to describe jehovah's witnesses.
instead, i preferred referring to them as a 'high control group'.
however, having watched the shocking and bizarre behaviour by so called jehovah's witness elders toward eric wilson (borean pickets), this now confirms beyond any doubt in my mind that the watchtower organisation is nothing more than a cult.. i would seriously encourage everyone to watch the video in it's entirety and see how truly cultlike they are.. my jaw still hitting the floor 😮.
That raises an interesting question, because the elder book does apparently allow the accused person to present evidence and witnesses.
Does anyone know of a case where an accused person has convinced a committee not to disfellowship because he is not guilty?
i always tended to avoid using the word 'cult' to describe jehovah's witnesses.
instead, i preferred referring to them as a 'high control group'.
however, having watched the shocking and bizarre behaviour by so called jehovah's witness elders toward eric wilson (borean pickets), this now confirms beyond any doubt in my mind that the watchtower organisation is nothing more than a cult.. i would seriously encourage everyone to watch the video in it's entirety and see how truly cultlike they are.. my jaw still hitting the floor 😮.
These seem like particularly nasty elders to me.
You know, even if these elders believe this man is a terrible apostate, in league with the devil, or whatever. Do they really need to behave like this? You’d think that confidence about having the “truth” would enable elders to display some grace in such situations. But I don’t think they are confident that they have the truth, which explains why they are so petty and nasty, because they feel psychologically vulnerable and defensive.
Not all elders are like that. Some of the elders who met with Mark on YouTube last year, in the north of England, for example, seemed pretty reasonable. Some of them, anyway. In particular I remember one elder laughing and saying, “he’s probably filming us now - smile for the camera”.
on pages 27 & 28 of the august 2019 study watchtower, it perverts the translation of scriptures yet again, in order to drum it into jw's minds that they have to work for their salvation.
“on the evening before his death, jesus told his disciples: “exercise faith in god; exercise faith also in me.” (john 14:1).
according to strong's lexicon, the greek word pisteuō is translated thus - “to think to be true, to be persuaded of, to credit, place confidence in, of the thing believed, to credit, have confidence.”.
An American Translation by Goodspeed:
10 and have made them a kingdom of priests for our God, and they are to reign over the earth.
Modern King James Version
10 And You made us kings and priests to our God, and we will reign over the earth.
Ferrar Fenton
And have made them into a kingdom and priests for our God;
And they will reign over the earth."
Ronald Knox
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
10"And you have made them a Kingdom, Priests and Kings to our God, and they shall reign over The Earth."
Weymouth
10 And hast formed them into a Kingdom to be priests to our God, And they reign over the earth."
William’s New Testament
10 and have made them a kingdom of priests for our God; and they will rule over the earth."
John Wesley’s New Testament
10 And hast made them unto our God kings and priests, and they shall reign over the earth.
snippets of two talks by co at ca and during his visit to a congregation in ohio.
fear mongering at it's best.
has anyone else heard their co say the same nonsense?.
Actually, I heard him say “a few minutes”, which can’t reasonably be construed to mean years or months of minutes. It must be imminent!
1 John 2:18
on pages 27 & 28 of the august 2019 study watchtower, it perverts the translation of scriptures yet again, in order to drum it into jw's minds that they have to work for their salvation.
“on the evening before his death, jesus told his disciples: “exercise faith in god; exercise faith also in me.” (john 14:1).
according to strong's lexicon, the greek word pisteuō is translated thus - “to think to be true, to be persuaded of, to credit, place confidence in, of the thing believed, to credit, have confidence.”.
Many translations use “reverence”, or similar. And yes, I can see that fear is connected with respect, depending on the shade of meaning in the context. I am a bit dubious about your method for detecting bias in the NWT, because these don’t appear particularly compelling examples.
