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  A POMO father's letter to his PIMI son (Warning: This is long!)

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my dear son, c---n:.

  i am writing you to express my love for you and the pride that i feel for the man you have become.

  you need to know that i accept you and love you dearly just for who you are and i am immensely proud of the wise choices you made with regard to your education and your career.. as i write you this heartfelt letter, i pray that you will read it entirely and give it your careful consideration.

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  slimboyfat

  This is too long I am afraid. I am reminded of the Mark Twain witticism: I wrote you a long letter because I didn’t have time to compose a short one. There is much truth in this. Brevity requires real thought and consideration: and it pays off.

  You need to know that I accept you and love you dearly...

  I come to realise that we ourselves need to accept that no one else needs to do anything. In fact other people invariably won’t do anything just because we want them too. They don’t have to listen, or accept, or see our point of view, if they choose not to. They need to want to themselves.
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  New Watchtower president

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the main corporation is two words "watch tower" society of pennsylvania.

  don adams took over for milton henschel in 2000 when the governing body cut all corporate ties, and when he died robert ciranko took over for him in 2014.. the next major corporation in line is the one word "watchtower" society of new york.

  the jw's first black corporate president, leon weaver jr., was president of this one up until recently.

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  slimboyfat

  I think the message was that JWs should believe that downsizing and selling assets is a progressive step forward for the organisation. Plus the gratuitous implication that JWs are the best to do business with because they are uniquely honest and trustworthy.
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  Reaction to GDPR / field service letter

  by sir82 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here is a thread on the new letter to be read to all congregations in all branches on adjustments in door to door work due to the gdpr:.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6274619758608384/2019-boe-elders-letter-may-13-england-ireland-data-protection.

  i have...connections....to a foreign language congregation in europe.

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  slimboyfat

  Sir82 hit the nail on the head. When laws affect the life and liberty of ordinary JWs then Watchtower is bravely defiant. (Germany, Russia, Malawi, South Korea, and so on, the list is endless)

  But when laws threaten loss of Watchtower funds or property then Watchtower can be incredibly flexible and amenable to changing their practices to avoid financial loss.

  Do JWs notice this double standard? Does it disturb anyone in terms of their priorities?
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  Reaction to GDPR / field service letter

  by sir82 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here is a thread on the new letter to be read to all congregations in all branches on adjustments in door to door work due to the gdpr:.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6274619758608384/2019-boe-elders-letter-may-13-england-ireland-data-protection.

  i have...connections....to a foreign language congregation in europe.

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  slimboyfat

  Can report general confusion. An elder reading out the letter added a comment to the effect: “at this stage the elders don’t know any more than you do about the new arrangement, or how it is going to work”. Elders meetings followed the meeting. One defiant pioneer sister commented, “this will turn out to our benefit”, with no explanation how. Some others showed little interest.
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  2019 BOE Elders letter May 13 England - Ireland Data Protection

  by Not_Culty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://tinyurl.com/y2bzncu9.

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  Any reactions from JWs? I was tempted to talk to JWs at carts about it, but I didn’t see any today.
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  2019 BOE Elders letter May 13 England - Ireland Data Protection

  by Not_Culty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://tinyurl.com/y2bzncu9.

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  slimboyfat

  Half of them are made up? Seems optimistic.
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  Need some advice, my gf just tried to commit suicide (very long post)

  by Jayk in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  sorry for the grammar and spelling errors if any..(me 29 raised in the org) (gf 25 not raised) just left her at the hospital with (call her sara).. sara had just ingested half a bottle of her antidepressant pill and half a bottle of melatonin.

  this took place after a discussion we where having about a recent event that took place.

  long story short, sara told me she slept with my best friend/coworker(call him tim) after a argument we had, the morning after it supposedly happened.. i was pretty torn but i was maintaining and i even thought sara was lying because tim was such a good friend.

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  Run and don’t look back!
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  New Light on the 144,000?

  by Ding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  someone on facebook is claiming to have reliable information that the gb is about to announce new light on the 144,000 -- that it's symbolic, not literal.. one person suggested that they will retain the two-class teaching and just change the meaning of 144,000. his idea was that the change would avoid three problems with the current teaching:.

  1. embarrassment over more and more partakers at the memorial when the number should be getting less and less.. 2. embarrassment over 12 symbolic 12,000s somehow equaling a literal 144,000.. 3. solving the problem of running out of "anointed" ones who are old enough to be on the gb.. thoughts?.

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  slimboyfat

  I can totally see this being a thing. Partakers are what, over 20,000 now? They have to do something to explain it. Calling new partakers crazy isn’t a long term solution, is it?

  It’s a bit embarrassing to admit a major and distinctive JW teaching has been wrong all this time. At the same time they abandoned the traditional JW teaching on the faithful slave, apparently without much sense of embarrassment. And despite the fact it makes nonsense of much of their own history and how the organisation developed.

  The GB apparently don’t embarrass easily. And they are not unduly concerned about what ordinary JWs think. So why not make this change?
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  2019 BOE Elders letter May 13 England - Ireland Data Protection

  by Not_Culty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://tinyurl.com/y2bzncu9.

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  According to the letter the single exception for making notes is where the householder instructs not to call again. In that case the publisher is supposed to make a note and keep it with the map.

  So the only record JWs will have from their ministry is a list of people who are actively hostile to their message - genius!

  But I don’t even understand how this is an exception. Why are JWs allowed to make a note even in the case of “do not call” if they are to make no notes at all? The law seems pretty draconian and unworkable to me.
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  2019 BOE Elders letter May 13 England - Ireland Data Protection

  by Not_Culty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://tinyurl.com/y2bzncu9.

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  slimboyfat

  Could I point out that this letter is addressed to Britain and Ireland, not England and Ireland - for some of us, not a trivial distinction.

  The letter says you can “arrange a return visit” but you are not allowed to record their name or address. How are you supposed to do that?