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  The Lords prayer ;Our Father prayer...."Let your name be sanctified " from Jesus.

  by smiddy3 in

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  according to mathew 6:9 jesus instructed his followers in, vs. 9 " you must pray, then this way "our father in the heavens,let your name be sanctified ..... which rank & file jehovah`s witnesses have been led to believe for the past 140 or so years is to make a personal name of god namely jehovah known to all of the world ,because as they have so loudly professed christendom has kept that name away from the general public.. not true ,raymundus martinus a spanish catholic monk of the 13th-14th century first coined that name for god and it has been used in and on churches throughout christendom in the world ever since.. true christendoms emphasis has been on witnessing about jesus christ which is what the new testament is all about,not jehovah god, but jesus christ .

  phillipians 2 :9-11. in the new testament ,( cgs ) jesus christ is never recorded as saying the personal name of god ever.. " " none of the apostles are ever recorded as saying the personal name of god ever.. " " none of his disciples are ever recorded as saying the personal name of god ever.. the new testament ,christian greek scriptures are all about bearing witness about jesus christ and after his time of bringing back people under his kingdom will he turn then it back over to his father, a thousand years when his rule is finished.. that is the message of the"kingdom interlinear of the christian greek scriptures" published by the wtb&ts ,says..

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  Except the evidence indicates that the divine name in the form Yaho was in common use among Jews in the first century. Jesus using this form the divine name would probably have been unremarkable, which is why there was no controversy.

  The number of scholars who support the idea that the New Testament originally used the divine name continues to grow.

  Mussies, G. (1971). The morphology of Koine Greek as used in the Apocalypse of St. John: A study in bilingualism (Vol. 27). Brill Archive.
  

  Howard, G. (1977). The Tetragram and the New Testament. Journal of Biblical Literature, 96(1), 63-83.

  Trobisch, D. (2000). The First Edition of the New Testament. Oxford University Press.

  Gaston, L. (2006). Paul and the Torah. Wipf and Stock Publishers.

  McRay, J. (2008). Archaeology and the New Testament. Baker Academic.

  Shaw, F. (2014). The Earliesr Non-Mystical Jewish Use of IAW. Peeters.

  If the New Testament intended to show that the divine name is no longer important, then it is odd that Jesus himself should have a name which means “Jehovah is salvation”, or that Acts should say Christians are a people taken out of the nations “for his name”, and so on. References to the divine name are legion in the NT.
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  Reaction to GDPR / field service letter

  by sir82 in

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  here is a thread on the new letter to be read to all congregations in all branches on adjustments in door to door work due to the gdpr:.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6274619758608384/2019-boe-elders-letter-may-13-england-ireland-data-protection.

  i have...connections....to a foreign language congregation in europe.

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  Going door to door will seem increasingly pointless and surely will decrease. One saving grace of the carts is perhaps that it has been preparing JWs for a new era of increasingly ineffective and apparently futile forms of preaching.

  Abandoning reporting of time (suggested on another thread a few weeks ago) seems all the more realistic now. And if time goes, then pioneering goes. The work would be slowing down, indeed. Soon, will there be anything left of JW religion?
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  A POMO father's letter to his PIMI son (Warning: This is long!)

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my dear son, c---n:.

  i am writing you to express my love for you and the pride that i feel for the man you have become.

  you need to know that i accept you and love you dearly just for who you are and i am immensely proud of the wise choices you made with regard to your education and your career.. as i write you this heartfelt letter, i pray that you will read it entirely and give it your careful consideration.

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  Aha, okay, I admit I only skimmed the post. So the situation is not as it first appears?

  When offering such a long post I don’t think there is any harm giving some context and a short explanation of the meaning of the post.

  Understanding the full meaning only at the end may be satisfying, but how many will make it that far without knowing?
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  A POMO father's letter to his PIMI son (Warning: This is long!)

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my dear son, c---n:.

  i am writing you to express my love for you and the pride that i feel for the man you have become.

  you need to know that i accept you and love you dearly just for who you are and i am immensely proud of the wise choices you made with regard to your education and your career.. as i write you this heartfelt letter, i pray that you will read it entirely and give it your careful consideration.

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  This is too long I am afraid. I am reminded of the Mark Twain witticism: I wrote you a long letter because I didn’t have time to compose a short one. There is much truth in this. Brevity requires real thought and consideration: and it pays off.

  You need to know that I accept you and love you dearly...

  I come to realise that we ourselves need to accept that no one else needs to do anything. In fact other people invariably won’t do anything just because we want them too. They don’t have to listen, or accept, or see our point of view, if they choose not to. They need to want to themselves.
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  New Watchtower president

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the main corporation is two words "watch tower" society of pennsylvania.

  don adams took over for milton henschel in 2000 when the governing body cut all corporate ties, and when he died robert ciranko took over for him in 2014.. the next major corporation in line is the one word "watchtower" society of new york.

  the jw's first black corporate president, leon weaver jr., was president of this one up until recently.

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  slimboyfat

  I think the message was that JWs should believe that downsizing and selling assets is a progressive step forward for the organisation. Plus the gratuitous implication that JWs are the best to do business with because they are uniquely honest and trustworthy.
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  Reaction to GDPR / field service letter

  by sir82 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here is a thread on the new letter to be read to all congregations in all branches on adjustments in door to door work due to the gdpr:.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6274619758608384/2019-boe-elders-letter-may-13-england-ireland-data-protection.

  i have...connections....to a foreign language congregation in europe.

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  slimboyfat

  Sir82 hit the nail on the head. When laws affect the life and liberty of ordinary JWs then Watchtower is bravely defiant. (Germany, Russia, Malawi, South Korea, and so on, the list is endless)

  But when laws threaten loss of Watchtower funds or property then Watchtower can be incredibly flexible and amenable to changing their practices to avoid financial loss.

  Do JWs notice this double standard? Does it disturb anyone in terms of their priorities?
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  Reaction to GDPR / field service letter

  by sir82 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here is a thread on the new letter to be read to all congregations in all branches on adjustments in door to door work due to the gdpr:.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6274619758608384/2019-boe-elders-letter-may-13-england-ireland-data-protection.

  i have...connections....to a foreign language congregation in europe.

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  slimboyfat

  Can report general confusion. An elder reading out the letter added a comment to the effect: “at this stage the elders don’t know any more than you do about the new arrangement, or how it is going to work”. Elders meetings followed the meeting. One defiant pioneer sister commented, “this will turn out to our benefit”, with no explanation how. Some others showed little interest.
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  2019 BOE Elders letter May 13 England - Ireland Data Protection

  by Not_Culty in

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  https://tinyurl.com/y2bzncu9.

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  slimboyfat

  Any reactions from JWs? I was tempted to talk to JWs at carts about it, but I didn’t see any today.
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  2019 BOE Elders letter May 13 England - Ireland Data Protection

  by Not_Culty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://tinyurl.com/y2bzncu9.

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  slimboyfat

  Half of them are made up? Seems optimistic.
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  Need some advice, my gf just tried to commit suicide (very long post)

  by Jayk in

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  2. relationships

  sorry for the grammar and spelling errors if any..(me 29 raised in the org) (gf 25 not raised) just left her at the hospital with (call her sara).. sara had just ingested half a bottle of her antidepressant pill and half a bottle of melatonin.

  this took place after a discussion we where having about a recent event that took place.

  long story short, sara told me she slept with my best friend/coworker(call him tim) after a argument we had, the morning after it supposedly happened.. i was pretty torn but i was maintaining and i even thought sara was lying because tim was such a good friend.

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  slimboyfat

  Run and don’t look back!