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Should Jesus be worshipped?
by Melody in
1. watchtower
2. bible
can anyone explain why jesus should or should not be worshipped?.
slimboyfat

Aqwabot has been on the site for decades, so I was curious what he sounded like in his own voice before AI was invented. A lot of the time he posted material from elsewhere, but a few times he wrote short messages himself. From his awkward use of language I wonder if English is not his first language. Here are a few early message that he posted:
Hi!
Please send me some e-books, about JWs and the WBTS practice and doctrines: critical literature, analysis etc. PDFs, DOCs, and other ebook format. For example Franz's second book, the "Captives of a Concept" book and others. May YOU have many of this in this subject.
Please send these to THIS email address.
Thanks.
Sometimes the so-called "pagan orign" is not problem for the Watchtower: wedding anniversaries, wedding rings, ties...
What's wrong withe word 'grace' ? Why don't the NWT use this word? Do they want to creat a new language to control the minds, like the Orwells' Newspeak?
Butterflyleia85 cited John 18:36 from the NWT as "My kingdom is no part of this world...". But this is just a mistranslation to justify their antipathy to the non-JW world. Jesus only said that here, that his kingdom is not of the world, so that is transcendent, and did not say anything about the JW-like "not part of the world". You can check the greek it only say: ek tou kosmou which means: of the world. The word "part" is not in the greek, that is only a Watctower insertion.
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Should Jesus be worshipped?
by Melody in
1. watchtower
2. bible
can anyone explain why jesus should or should not be worshipped?.
slimboyfat

In which of his books does Benjamin Sommer discuss Justin Martyr?
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Should Jesus be worshipped?
by Melody in
1. watchtower
2. bible
can anyone explain why jesus should or should not be worshipped?.
slimboyfat

What’s the point of this? Really? Do you even read the AI text before posting it?
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Should Jesus be worshipped?
by Melody in
1. watchtower
2. bible
can anyone explain why jesus should or should not be worshipped?.
slimboyfat

According to Dan McCellan, and my own reading of the subject confirms this, it’s the consensus among scholars that Justin believed the Son is a second god subordinate to the God who created all things. Justin Martyr’s theology is incompatible with later Nicene Trinitarianism. The fact that you can prompt AI to insist otherwise using a lot of flowery language and specious long-winded arguments doesn’t alter that.
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Should Jesus be worshipped?
by Melody in
1. watchtower
2. bible
can anyone explain why jesus should or should not be worshipped?.
slimboyfat

Theos without the article may not automatically mean “a god” rather than “the God”, but when the authors explicitly make that distinction themselves, as Philo, Justin Matryr, and Origen do, then it’s fair to accept they mean what they say when the make a distinction between the God and a second subordinate god. This video has a good explanation in relation to Justin Martyr by Bible scholar Dan McClellan.
https://youtu.be/7JbqiSpkBL4?si=-2vtceQTuV6A9nPm
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Should Jesus be worshipped?
by Melody in
1. watchtower
2. bible
can anyone explain why jesus should or should not be worshipped?.
slimboyfat

Your objection, which seeks to deflate the Christological force …
Yet more AI crap. Do you have a single thought of your own?
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Should Jesus be worshipped?
by Melody in
1. watchtower
2. bible
can anyone explain why jesus should or should not be worshipped?.
slimboyfat

Can’t be bothered reading that. Do you anywhere address why you lied about proskuneo in the LXX? And can you explain why should I bother reading any of the AI text you post when it is laced with falsehoods? You can answer in a sentence or two no need for all the diversionary verbiage.
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Should Jesus be worshipped?
by Melody in
1. watchtower
2. bible
can anyone explain why jesus should or should not be worshipped?.
slimboyfat

A quick scan of the AI text shows at least one shockingly misleading comment:
The attempted analogy with 1 Chronicles 29.20, sometimes marshalled to prove that a human king could be “worshipped” in a merely civil sense, collapses under textual scrutiny. The Masoretic Hebrew employs the verb shachah for both God and David, but shachah corresponds in the Septuagint not to proskuneō but to a broader semantic field, and modern critical translations judiciously render the second object “did homage to the king.”
In fact the LXX does use proskuneō in this verse. The above is just a pile of flowery nonsense. How many more factual errors and distortions I cannot be bothered to begin working out. What a waste of everyone’s time it would be if anyone was actually reading these stupid AI posts, which apparently they are not in any case.
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Should Jesus be worshipped?
by Melody in
1. watchtower
2. bible
can anyone explain why jesus should or should not be worshipped?.
slimboyfat

The question of whether Jesus of Nazareth ought to receive the cultic devotion that the New Testament directs exclusively to the God of Israel can scarcely be adjudicated by appealing to isolated proof-texts or by counting lexical occurrences.
Neither can it scarcely be settled by asking AI to write pile of text in flowery language to buttress your preferred position.
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Should Jesus be worshipped?
by Melody in
1. watchtower
2. bible
can anyone explain why jesus should or should not be worshipped?.
slimboyfat

The king of Israel was worshipped alongside God (1 Chron 29:20) and Jesus himself said that the saints would be worshipped (Rev 3:9), but as for the highest form of sacrificial worship (latreuo), as Jesus said, that is given only to God. It is never applied to Jesus.