you don't need to understand complicated ways to go from 607bce to 1914ce.
you don't have to go back to the late 1700's to understand the founding of jehovah's witnesses on the back of william miller's teachings.
you just need to know that watchtower math and past doctrines along with changes in teachings are all based on lies.
OTWO said
"You can find anything if you work backwards. It's like writing a Sherlock Holmes story. Just work backwards from what a great detective would expect to find and make him look like a genius in discovering those things."
Thats so true, but it can sound so convincing if you are wanting to believe, or have been brought up in it and don't know better
https://youtu.be/poaczsrvh6g.
video description :.
published on 19 aug 2019. this was ment to be a interviuw with uber apostate jason wynne about our activism.
Change of direction in this thread but since it is the same poster, we'll forgive him.
Voting..... No doubt the Watchtower would deny expelling those who vote, and technically this is true since it is sin that merits dissassocian, not d/fing. What is the difference?
None whatever, one is still shunned ,it is semantics. They will say that by your actions you showed that you had left
what if we could exchange one president from another country to yours?...
say trump for trudeau, trudeau for trump, trump in exchange for your respective european country, etc -- for a few years?
would you consider it a win or a loss for your country?.
Nothing personal on my part, I generally avoid threads on American politics. But ,
I am sure most Brits would be horrified at the idea of Mr Trump in charge of this country.
it is truly heartwarming to see so many new ones sign up to this site as most of us know it can be quite stressful at first ,because of the indoctrination we have all gone through in going on apostate sites .. the guilt ,paranoia ,fear , apprehension ,even being a judas fear, all unnatural fears put on us by a mind controlling cult.. that wants us to be captives of there religious interpretations about the bible.. however this and other sites like it are the only way we can find out about {the truth about the truth} ttatt.. welcome everybody..
Welcome to all newbies and curious lurkers , the open minded , the doubting dubs, the "Bible Studies " of Witnesses who want to check it out....... in short anybody who ventures onto this site. Stay around.
why the shunning if someone leaves?
why are they working so hard to keep everyone in?
is it money?
It is possible to leave and not be shunned, many of us have done it.
It takes a sloooooow fade and guarded speech in the company of dubs.
In the U K the elders are so non caring that they leave you alone and r and f members only shun if they hear an announcement .
we already know how jws will respond ( on a pole).
but i found an article that talks about jws views on how jesus died.
i didn't know that there was a time when jws accepted the cross unlike now.
That was an excellent article linked by Sweetyj in the o/p. It explains very clearly the use of ancient language and the fact that a word's original meaning is not necessarily the correct understanding. E.g. an obvious example would be if I were to write that, I was feeling gay today, just a few years ago it would have meant that I was happy and lighthearted........... but you all know how you would understand it today....
deer brothers .
who can help me download the korea 2019 regional convention video?.
i really need it.. please help me.. thanks.. i’m chinese .
That is the pre convention trailer..... if our friend wanted the actual sessions, I don't know. I couldn't get them in English. Only available through JW Stream with an access code that is fiercely guarded by elders.
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"Inside a courthouse in Thompson Falls, Montana, the Jehovah's Witnesses organization in September suffered its greatest court defeat in a U.S. childsex abuse case."
If it was September, it is not this year. I wonder when?
first of all, there's a new imaginary picture of jws during the great tribulation:.
then there's a picture of a jw family refusing to listen to "apostate lies" via pre-programed, self imposed information control:.
the description says:.
Joey Jo Jo said.
"Ever since I was a kid in the seventies we were taught to expect persecution and a general expectation that as gods chosen ones that life would be tough."
I was a young man then, I recall stirring WT studies based on Habakukk foretelling hardships and persecution soon............
I hid a Bible carefully in our then house, for the hard times ahead when lit. Would surely be confiscated. I wonder if it is still there?
i had an encounter with a jehova's witness at my doorstep.
i challenged them on blood transfusions.
later i looked at jw website too.
This whole fractions thing muddied the water for me long before I quit.
They forbid blood, red cells , white cells , plasma and platelets .... but allow any "" smaller" fractions.
Where did that come from? The Governing Body, that's who. Admittedly imperfect human men.
Witnesses give their lives for the rule of men, not the rule of God.
