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  Publisher numbers versus baptised witnesses.

  by amandm in

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  i grew up as a witness, and left about 10 years ago, i'm currently researching witness numbers for a project i'm working on, and i can't seem to get an accurate number of baptised witnesses - hardly a surprise!

  from their website it looks like they list the number of publishers instead of the number of baptised witnesses, so it totally works to obscure how many actual witnesses there are, apart from the fact it's morally dubious to class a publisher as a minister of god as they refer to publishers on their uk section of the site.

  i also am trying to work out how many leave every year, even approximate figures would be great, from their own website it just looks like they try to massage figures to make them look as favourable as possible.

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  BluesBrother

  If they counted all the baptized, I and most others on here would be included. At least as it is, six months after stop reporting you are not counted and generally slip off the radar
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  First visit to Kingdom Hall turned out to be a nightmare!

  by Atlantis in

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  a first time visit to a kingdom hall turned out to be a nightmare for this young lady.. .

  https://www.azfamily.com/news/man-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-teen-girl-outside-glendale-church/article_2fe560c0-c36b-11e9-997b-fb25195e2ed1.html .

  atlantis!

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  Poor kid!

  Around here the car parks are monitored.....I always thought that was going over the top with security.......
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  I genuinely burst out laughing.................

  by The Fall Guy in

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  2. beliefs

  ...when i read a reply to an email which i sent to a devout couple of jw's, showing the luxurious accommodation which "vows of poverty" jw's have been living in.. https://ibsaproperty.com.

  the reply began by apologising for their "bad french.

  " brilliant!

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  BluesBrother

  I was told some time ago that one of the advantages of the Chelmsford project was that it would allow the sale of several buildings that were then used for residences off the site of the old Bethel. Judging by the postcodes they are all in spitting distance of the old site.

  It is a lot of money but that is what property costs in that part of the world. I would accept it if we were told that they have been done up for sale.

  That is how they will pay for a super new UK base at Chelmsford.
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  1914 Was Originally Just 40 Years Past the End Date of 1874, That's All it Was!

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you don't need to understand complicated ways to go from 607bce to 1914ce.

  you don't have to go back to the late 1700's to understand the founding of jehovah's witnesses on the back of william miller's teachings.

  you just need to know that watchtower math and past doctrines along with changes in teachings are all based on lies.

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  BluesBrother

  OTWO said

  "You can find anything if you work backwards. It's like writing a Sherlock Holmes story. Just work backwards from what a great detective would expect to find and make him look like a genius in discovering those things."

  Thats so true, but it can sound so convincing if you are wanting to believe, or have been brought up in it and don't know better
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  Conversation with founder of avoidJW.org

  by Xjw csaSurvivors in

  1. watchtower
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  https://youtu.be/poaczsrvh6g.

  video description :.

  published on 19 aug 2019. this was ment to be a interviuw with uber apostate jason wynne about our activism.

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  BluesBrother

  Change of direction in this thread but since it is the same poster, we'll forgive him.

  Voting..... No doubt the Watchtower would deny expelling those who vote, and technically this is true since it is sin that merits dissassocian, not d/fing. What is the difference?

  None whatever, one is still shunned ,it is semantics. They will say that by your actions you showed that you had left
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  What would happen to your country if you could exchange your president for Trump?

  by Wonderment in

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  2. current

  what if we could exchange one president from another country to yours?...

  say trump for trudeau, trudeau for trump, trump in exchange for your respective european country, etc -- for a few years?

  would you consider it a win or a loss for your country?.

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  Nothing personal on my part, I generally avoid threads on American politics. But ,

  I am sure most Brits would be horrified at the idea of Mr Trump in charge of this country.
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  A warm welcome to the many newbies who have joined and posted these past months .

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is truly heartwarming to see so many new ones sign up to this site as most of us know it can be quite stressful at first ,because of the indoctrination we have all gone through in going on apostate sites .. the guilt ,paranoia ,fear , apprehension ,even being a judas fear, all unnatural fears put on us by a mind controlling cult.. that wants us to be captives of there religious interpretations about the bible.. however this and other sites like it are the only way we can find out about {the truth about the truth} ttatt.. welcome everybody..

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  Welcome to all newbies and curious lurkers , the open minded , the doubting dubs, the "Bible Studies " of Witnesses who want to check it out....... in short anybody who ventures onto this site. Stay around.
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  Staying a Jehovah's Witness

  by lriddle80 in

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  2. friends

  why the shunning if someone leaves?

  why are they working so hard to keep everyone in?

  is it money?

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  BluesBrother

  It is possible to leave and not be shunned, many of us have done it.

  It takes a sloooooow fade and guarded speech in the company of dubs.

  In the U K the elders are so non caring that they leave you alone and r and f members only shun if they hear an announcement .
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  Did Jesus die on a stake or pole?

  by sweetyj in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we already know how jws will respond ( on a pole).

  but i found an article that talks about jws views on how jesus died.

  i didn't know that there was a time when jws accepted the cross unlike now.

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  BluesBrother

  That was an excellent article linked by Sweetyj in the o/p. It explains very clearly the use of ancient language and the fact that a word's original meaning is not necessarily the correct understanding. E.g. an obvious example would be if I were to write that, I was feeling gay today, just a few years ago it would have meant that I was happy and lighthearted........... but you all know how you would understand it today....
  
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  Who can help me download the Korea 2019 regional convention video?

  by leeeunseo in

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  2. friends

  deer brothers .

  who can help me download the korea 2019 regional convention video?.

  i really need it.. please help me.. thanks.. i’m chinese .

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  BluesBrother

  That is the pre convention trailer..... if our friend wanted the actual sessions, I don't know. I couldn't get them in English. Only available through JW Stream with an access code that is fiercely guarded by elders.