big article.. https://www.inquirer.com/news/inq/jehovahs-witnesses-silent-history-child-sex-abuse-20180425.html.
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“When Haugh and his wife, Jennifer, told the elders who oversaw their congregation about this October 2005 incident, they were greeted with muted concern. Then came the threats.
"We were told on more than one occasion that if we told other parents about this, we would be disciplined,
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Amazing that this attitude prevailed into 2005, Congs. had plenty of updated info by then.
a thought came to me as i was posting on another topic.
my reactionary mind, responding to watchtower's cruel and hostile treatment of genuine truthseekers who can no longer reconcile with watchtower's narrative was, " may the collapse begin".. but then my thoughts turned to how that would affect my parents and siblings who are blissfully oblivious with their collective heads in the sand.
all their hopes and future joy has been postponed for decades awaiting paradise while fighting off the black dog that is depression.
I am in a similar situation and have long since given up in trying to reach them with logic. The mental hoops they jump through astound me. Orwell’s Doublethink has nothing on them.
So, if the Org. Were bankrupted by Court cases, would it change their faith in the concept of Last Days, Armageddon and a New World?
I am sure it would not
in my experience, there were three types of witnesses.
some were barely witnesses while others were extremely conservative types who followed the letter of the law.
and then you had those in the middle who just went with the flow.. i knew many witnesses who “felt safe” being in a stricter environment.they were actually proud that they belonged to such and such congregation because it was filled with strict bethelites..
It depends what you mean by strict or liberal..
in my experience BOEs that stuck close to the rules would “strain out the gnat but swallow the camel” , as Jesus said. They would point to W/Tower paragraph thus or old Kingdom Ministry such and such to prove you wrong about some piddling issue. However they could be oblivious to potentially dangerous situations developing that ended up in somebody being before a J C for bad behaviour.
in the real old days, 1970’s , I served with wise elders who had seen life before becoming J W’s . We interpreted the rules as guidelines and applied them with common sense . Anything serious was hopefully nipped in the bud by acting quickly and firmly. The result was a happy congregation and “The Truth” ( as we misguidedly called it) was FUN.
hi there, i found out yet about the ship's which our holy stock company watchtower had in paraguay, el pionero uno, the ship el pionero dos and el pionero tres.
all three have been built by jehovah's witnesses themselves and the first 2 ships have been sold with 100% interest.
i am now interested if anyone of you heard if watchtower does the same in other countries, like the philippines, venezuela or belize, building ships for free by the cult members and selling them years later profitable.
if a jw had the nerve to ask me this question, i'd say to them, "you go first.
using only scriptural proof, show me why you believe that the wtbts/ccojw is god's choice and i'll tell you if i agree with your scriptural reasoning.".
wait for the silence and the rabbit in the headlights moment.. i searched on the wt cd rom for references of "channel of communication.".
Need to be careful who you debate with.... I've been reading the Revised Shepherd the Flock book and apostasy is still defined as spreading false teachings i.e. against the teaching of the written Watchtower.
Depending on who you discuss it with, things could easly escalate...
with the ramped up rhetoric the last few years many were totally convinced the end would be here by 2019-20 .
and instead of making due, the org.
has burdened the brothers once again to donate and volunteer for the new and improved patterson and video production center to be completed by 2026!
That link for the "enormous media centre " will not open for me "error 16..." security
2019 information-for-expectant-mothers-s-401-e. 2019-addendum-to-shepherd-book-sfla-e_bi2019-shepherd-the-flock-of-god-october-sfl_e2020-kingdom-ministry-school-program-elders-pgme-20-e. instructions to access my profile.
https://we.tl/t-rex13nnhax atlantis!
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Info for Expectant Mothers is illuminating. They are aware of the risks their blood policy brings....
"8. Postpartum Hemorrhage: Discuss with your doctor postpartum hemorrhage (PPH).
PPH is excessive and potentially life-threatening bleeding that may occur during or after
delivery. Ask your doctor how he will prevent or control PPH. Although PPH is not com-
mon, it is serious, and advance preparation by your obstetric team is vital. There are a
number of basic management options, such as using medical or surgical techniques to re-
duce bleeding, recycling your own blood (cell salvage), and administering clotting factors
(which could include blood fractions). Ask your obstetrician to monitor you closely for
bleeding after delivery.
9. Emergency Hysterectomy: Inform your obstetrician in advance whether or not you
would consent to an emergency hysterectomy (surgical removal of the uterus) if all other
measures have failed to stop major bleeding after childbirth. In such cases, early emer-
gency hysterectomy can be lifesaving"
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NB Formatting is hard on a tablet ....
last sunday's watchtower tells the story of a man who:.
was baptized in 1908 at the age of 20. he was very confident that he would soon receive his reward.
in fact, when he proposed marriage in 1911, he told his prospective bride, pearl: “you know what is going to happen in 1914. if we are going to get married, we better do it soon!” did this christian couple give up the race for life when they did not receive their heavenly reward in 1914?
Do you mean "Expectation postponed makes a heart sick"....Prov. 13: 12
That is certainly true . Now that we struggle with the ailments common to old people, it must be sickening to those still clinging to their faith
new study bible photos from reddit if you want them.
these are a bit larger photos.
see first page for info.. .
I’ll second that , Room 215, very well said. It’s a point not lost on many older dubs who are at a loss with the current video /IPad techno society that it has become.
From what we see, this is background to the scriptures served on a plate , nothing that could not be found by a google search , but that requires a little brain power and effort to lift one finger .
has anyone noticed that witnesses (from the top down) seem to have a quiet form of smug arrogance toward all non witnesses?.
perhaps it comes from being told how "special and unique" they are but they end up looking down on all normal members of the community because they are not witnesses.. so any form of "love" they show those in the territory is also limited as long as they accept the message...otherwise they are viewed contemptuously as "worldly" and therefore of little value...after all,they will be destroyed right?.
Yes, I was a smug, WT opinionated so and so. Looking back, I cringe at some of the smart ass comments I made to my work mates . They were very decent not to hold it against me.
The WTS teaches you to be like that. You believe you are one of God's chosen people . You have knowledge that shows the great minds of the world to be wrong .... we used to joke that our little kids "know more than the Pope of Rome" , if they know basic "truths"
No wonder we were big heads!
