Significant changes? No ....
what was bad about it has got worse ,what used to be good seems further away and the rate of growth is ,in real terms, stagnating
Happy New Year
BluesBrother
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Has Anything Really Changed For JWs In The Last 10 Years?
by minimus in2020 is days away.
has anything really changed for the witnesses or the religion?
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The Faithful and Discreet Slave Just "have" The Truth
by Number 6 inin the late 80's when i was in my late teens i used to with my then wife to be attend a monday night pre-watchtower study at a local elders house.. this guy was revered as very knowledgable and he was scholarly and interesting to listen to; so at the time it was a genuinely enjoyable monday evening spent with oftentimes discussion would veer far of the subject at hand and lasting to well after 11pm some evenings.. this particular night, the subject up for discussion was "the faithful and discreet slave" and how we should be obeying them without question.
right in the middle of the study this elder said as a question not in the wt article; "how do we really know the current fds as lead by the governing body are the real deal.
i mean what actual proof do we have?".
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BluesBrother
I have these discussions with my “mature in years and JWism “ family.
They happily agree and lead the conversation that
1) elders hardly ever do their jobs these days and don’t care for the flock
2) the idea of Spirit appointment is nonsense
3) material these days seems written for children, and videos? Yuk!
4) the current GB are not a patch on the old ones
I could list more complaints.... I say “ why follow it then?” ...They reply
” It’s the truth isn’t it “
Doh! ( facepalm gesture)
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If You Had The Choice To Live Anywhere In The World or Any State Where Would You Be?
by minimus ini do like the usa but winters suck!
florida has some charm but it gets brutal with heat and humidity.
california is too looney.
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BluesBrother
Hi Phizzy
What is “proof” in such things? Anyway let’s not turn this lighthearted thread into a political argument.
Happy New Year
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If You Had The Choice To Live Anywhere In The World or Any State Where Would You Be?
by minimus ini do like the usa but winters suck!
florida has some charm but it gets brutal with heat and humidity.
california is too looney.
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BluesBrother
As a U K resident I believe that Phizzy paints a distorted view of our homeland and our Government and Mr Johnson, the Prime Minister.It ain't that bad over here, apart from the weather. Too many rainy cold days that sap your spirits.
I always loved the culture of the USA , especially the South (the home of the music) but could I live there ? Hurricanes, Twisters, forest fires and searing hot summers put me off.
Canada looks nice...but I'd miss our football, that's soccer to the uninitiated)...
It's all superfluous anyway since I am not going anywhere. Let's make a cup of tea...
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Secret memo to Circuit Overseers "former child abuser" who was elder\MS moved to another congregation
by BottleGate_ inin 1998, #watchtower mailed a secret memo to all circuit overseers in which it was announced that when a "former child abuser" who was also an elder or ms moved to another congregation, the new congregation would **not** be informed of his past sins.
read: institutional cover-up!
https://twitter.com/mark_j_odonnell/status/1209556534944026624
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BluesBrother
I am in no way defending them when I point out that this instruction is over 20 years old and may well be different now. This is from "Sheperding Book " 2019...
"When an individual who has been accused of child sexual abuse
(established or not) moves to another congregation, two elders
from the congregation the individual moves from should imme-
diately call the Legal Department. The elders should be prepared
to provide the name of the new congregation, if known. This
should be done even if the individual is disfellowshipped or is in
prison and is transferred to another facility or is released. The
Congregation Service Committee should not send any informa-
tion to the new congregation until after receiving legal advice
from the Legal Department and direction from the Service De-
partment.
27. When the elders are informed that an individual who has been
accused of child sexual abuse (established or not) has moved
into the congregation, two elders should immediately call the Le-
gal Department"
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Cutting Back to Only One Cup a Day!
by Atlantis innew years resolution, i am cutting back to only one cup a day!.
https://docdro.id/owpendb.
atlantis!--old timer class!.
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BluesBrother
Sir James MacKintosh"The powers of a man’s mind are directly proportional to the quantity of coffee he drinks."
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Should't they cancel their meeting tonight?
by carla ini find it kind of amusing that as worldly people who pass by a kh and know nothing of jw's tonight will think that the jw's are having a christmas eve service.
many churches have a number of services tonight; children's program, family/christmas eve service and maybe a midnight candlelight service.. you know how some jw's won't even wear red between nov & dec lest anybody think they are celebrating the holidays?
well then, shouldn't they cancel tonight's meeting so nobody thinks they are doing their own christmas eve service?
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BluesBrother
To cancel the meeting would be making tonight special.. because of the date and that would be almost a celebration in reverse , if you see what I mean
No, just carry on, ignoring it. I wonder if they still go door to door Christmas Morning?.... we used to , in my miss-spent youth.
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What The Fossils Say
by cofty inthe old creation book had a lot to say about the fossil record.
if i remember correctly it was some lie about all the fossils ever found would fit on a single table.
the reality is that there is an embarrassment of riches illustrating the evolution of life.
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BluesBrother
Debating Creation is a never ending topic and one that I am going to duck from , to be honest. I would say though that to criticise the writers of a 1985 “ Creation” book by holding it against findings of 21st century palaeontologist is a tad unfair.
The book should be held against evolutionary writings of its own time... I believe that was done in years past.
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Just a moan - regarding the latest trend in ignorance of the English language!
by The Fall Guy inin recent months i have noticed more and more people on the net (including here) are using this latest perversion of the english language -.
"i would of done this..........or he would of tried to change things".
it's would've - short for would have!.
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BluesBrother
“The emoticon-texting/non-writing generation are losing the skill of communicating properly.“
You are dead right there Fall Guy. I despair, and blame the schools for not making it a priority.... and don’t try and tell me it is just the evolution of language. It isn’t, it is poor grammar.
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Who's Happy To Go Abroad and Drive on the Other Side?
by snugglebunny ini do it most years.
being in the uk, virtually every other country nearby drives on the right.
we drive on the left.
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BluesBrother
Only travelled by road abroad once. I declined to drive but the lad who was driving found it very easy to pull round a corner and go onto the left side of the road...force of habit for a Brit.
“The CPS is currently trying to extradite the wife of an American diplomat who killed a young man by driving on the right and then fleeing back to the USA hiding behind diplomatic immunity)”
I ,and people I know, have a lot of sympathy for this woman who is being vilified by the British media. I know that road and I can imagine how easily it could happen . After all, it was an accident for goodness sake!