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  What did Russell and the Bible students say about racism?

  by Fadeaway1962 in

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  featured on jworg , what does the bible say about racism?

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  and a video , johny and gideon: once enemies, now brothers , two men from south africa.. what did russell and rutherford have to say about racism in the congregations ?.

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  BluesBrother

  Whatever the Watchtower said in the nineteenth century about race , it reflected the prevailing viewpoint of its time. I am not aware that it advocated segregation but in areas where that was necessary to avoid a backlash, it went along with it .

  In South Africa in my memory their view was that the preaching work was all important and not to be sidetracked by local inequalities. They did a work-around and had black and white congregations.

  I am not saying that was good or bad, but that ipwas their judgement and they mixed as soon as the law allowed
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  Gorby has to admit

  by Gorbatchov in

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  for the first time in my life, i have to admit that the world is rapidly deteriorating.

  first i saw a decline in democracy worldwide.

  elections were a tough battle every time, unfair too.

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  BluesBrother

  Yes ,the scene of the world is changeable, unpredictable,not always what we want ....but was it not ever thus?

  This may be remembered as a “Summer of discontent “ and like no other most of us have experienced.. but is it harder to handle than say, 1940 or any year in WW2 ?

  Times have been worse in times past . Have a beer and cheer up!
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  Saving Money While Stuck At Home

  by Simon in

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  2. friends

  so you're stuck at home, you may be worried about your income, welcome to the world of filling your stuck-in-the-house time with saving some money!.

  here in canada, our energy costs are going up because we have a carbon tax.

  today, in the middle of the crisis, trudeau is raising it by 50%, probably as some perverse "thank you" to all the truckers delivering vital goods.

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  BluesBrother

  We are saving money alright, no opportunities to go out and spend it in coffee houses and the events we would have gone to if it were not for the virus. It is a quiet, boring summer,but a cheap one.
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  The National Anthem

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  recent controversies in america brought this to mind , although i don’t want this to become a political thread , rather to discuss the wts rules that stop a jw showing respect for the national anthem.. the watchtower says that doing so is an act of idolatry, giving worship to the state or its icon.

  as such witnesses remain seated when the anthem is played.

  in britain people simply stand quietly to show respect, there is no hand gesture.. when i was a boy, every cinema show and theatre concluded with the anthem,being played .usually it was orchestrally with no words sung.

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  BluesBrother

  My reasoning was similar to the post above by 'Desirous of Change' , I went to a football International and saw the crowd standing for both anthems. That showed me it was a simple respect, not submission or worship.

  After all 1 Peter 2,17 says " Have honour for the king" . To deliberately sit down as dubs do is disrespectful.
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  The National Anthem

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  recent controversies in america brought this to mind , although i don’t want this to become a political thread , rather to discuss the wts rules that stop a jw showing respect for the national anthem.. the watchtower says that doing so is an act of idolatry, giving worship to the state or its icon.

  as such witnesses remain seated when the anthem is played.

  in britain people simply stand quietly to show respect, there is no hand gesture.. when i was a boy, every cinema show and theatre concluded with the anthem,being played .usually it was orchestrally with no words sung.

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  BluesBrother

  Recent controversies in America brought this to mind , although I don’t want this to become a political thread , rather to discuss the WTS rules that stop a JW showing respect for the National Anthem.

  The Watchtower says that doing so is an act of idolatry, giving worship to the State or its icon. As such Witnesses remain seated when the anthem is played. In Britain people simply stand quietly to show respect, there is no hand gesture.

  When I was a boy, every cinema show and theatre concluded with the anthem,being played .Usually it was orchestrally with no words sung. Therefore every time we went out we had to skidaddle out quickly or we would be caught in a difficult situation. The alternative was to brave it and sit tight feeling the eyes of everyone glaring at you.....

  What about you? Have you suffered difficulties as a dub due to this issue. Is it the same in other countries?
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  How many of you would actually believe a child abuser would let his crime be watched by minimum two witnesses?

  by Thinkforyourself in

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  2. child-abuse

  in many closed religious cults, sects or globally widely spread religions, sexual abuse on big scale is revealed and covered up by the religious authorities.

  in the jw, the culture is to deal with these matters within the org itself, and the rule is, "no crime can be proven without the presentation of at least two witnesses".

  men made the rules, men commit these crimes and men defend them and even forse these children to meet and talk to their abusers.

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  Of course not. Nb. I have never seen a claim that abusers won’t lie.

  you need one witness if the victim speaks up . Unless the abuser is so careless to be overheard by a sibling, it is not going to happen.
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  Witnessing Work to Stop?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  my 87 year old dad called me for the first time in 16 years the other day .... just to chat.

  i was floored to say the least since he didn't even bother to call me when my mom died several years ago.

  he called again today to inquire how i felt about jehovah's witnesses.

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  BluesBrother

  I have no doubt that the Field Ministry will start again whenever it considered safe ,and legal to do so. The Governing Body have said nothing to suggest that it is all over.

  Some Witnesses may tell you that the end is here, but that is speculation and wishful thinking
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  Why did they have to HANG MARY?

  by Terry in

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  2. friends

  they hanged mary!

  (the townsfolk did)i'll tell you about it - but .... the facts will turn readers against her.

  i mean, after all, she did kill a man.sympathy instantly dries up; making her agonizing death--as awful as it was--much less empathetic.

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  BluesBrother

  All along I thought she was human ! You had me there , Terry.

  A shocking story nontheless . It goes to show what people can do, at their worst.

  Her story is on Wikipedia.
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  Breaking: Beards in The Watchtower

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the latest issue of the watchtower shows a man with a beard praying.. .

  i fully expected to see him 'progress' to clean-shaven in the following pictures, but instead he is still bearded when 'applying bible principles'.. .

  i then realized that he was already featured on the cover itself.. .

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  BluesBrother

  Come on,...... we have to stop living in the past. True, the WTS used to have an issue with beards. I saw enough of that in my home congregation in the 70s and 80s . But things have moved on .

  Nowadays a neat beard is perfectly acceptable and it is time we gave this matter a rest.
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  Meet George Floyd

  by cofty in

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  2. current

  his murder was a crime and justice must be done, but it's sobering to learn more about the man who is being lionised by millions.

  thanks as always to the courageous candace owens.. ....

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  BluesBrother

  As a Brit, I try and keep out of American issue threads , but this is one that has affected the whole world, we have had demos too.

  Only a naive person would believe wholeheartedly all the eulogies about him, but it is wrong to blacken his name with insults. What would it matter anyway? If he was the worst person on earth, does that justify police brutality and homicide?

  I thought USA was a country ruled by law.

  The protesters have an issue that needs solving ....the looters want locking up.