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  An upcoming Watchtower article saying if people Pioneer Jehovah will provide!

  by LongHairGal in

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  i saw the post on reddit and the thread got many responses..can anybody believe the religion is still saying this??

  it has to be as plain as day that so many jws are poor and struggling today because they never got a career or decent job years ago.. sadly, there are still witnesses who believe money will fall from heaven if they are in the full-time ministry.

  they expect some miracle to occur..but, we all know the truth: people in the congregation will be hit up for yet more money for another bunch of irresponsible people pursuing poverty.

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  BluesBrother

  I was struck by the absolute certainty that they wrote about miraculous gifts to sustain you if you trust..

  “10 When we listen to the fine shepherd and stop being unduly anxious about material needs, we can be sure that Jehovah will provide for us. (ReadPsalm 37:5; 1 Pet. 5:7) Consider the situations mentioned in paragraph 5. Until now, Jehovah may have used a family head or an employer to help us care for our daily needs. If the family head is no longer able to do so or if we lose our job, Jehovah will take care of us in some other way. He will provide. Let us now consider something else that the fine shepherd urges us to stopdoing”

  The danger is that some of them will actually believe it ....
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  Michael Jackson's mom on his disassociation

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  from an interview with ebony magazine:.

  in 1987, he left the jehovah's witnesses.

  there was strong opposition to his "thriller" video on the part of some witnesses.

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  BluesBrother

  She speaks as though he is still alive at the time of the interview so I guess it is pretty old. If a mother were to speak truthfully now, she could not say that . The screw gets tighter all the time.
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  Governing Body needs qualified ''early to mid-twenty year old elders''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://avoidjw.org/files/en/docs/doc-s/s-147/2022/s-147-22.01-e_bi.pdf.

  avoidjw.org has posted a letter titled, ''announcements and reminders january 2022.''.

  the governing body are always changing bible procedures.

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  BluesBrother

  I seem to remember an old Watchtower article on eldership focussing on a verse that said to “ select wise, discreet and experienced men”..... How can you be , in your early twenties.?

  That announcement referred to “ exceptional ministerial servants “. How do they judge exception? By pioneer hours ? We know that means nothing...
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  Current Elder and Sub CO Arrested

  by James Jack in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/stlb8r/valley_head_elder_charged_trigger_warning_cp_link/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf.

  known his wife her whole life.

  they have served both in mississippi and minnesota..

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  BluesBrother

  Yes , it is an offence for which you can be d/f’d…

  Of course the whole judicial system of the JW is different from the world in that nothing carries an automatic penalty. It is there to root out the unrepentant. However this guy would have an awful lot of explaining to do ………
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  Great Idea for PIMO! (Zoom Meetings)

  by Iamallcool in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.seacoastonline.com/story/entertainment/television/2021/11/09/beulr-shark-tank-no-deal-maine-native-peter-solimine-beulr-app/6298356001/.

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  So what’s the idea? To have a “bot” log in automatically to zoom meetings to pretend you are there?

  It is easy enough to log in but turn off your camera, not allow them to un mute you and turn off the sound. With that done you can sit there and read the Sunday paper if you wish ….
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  Anthony Morris wants to help inactive ones return to Jehovah

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jw broadcasting.

  news and announcements.

  2021 governing body update #10. .

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  BluesBrother

  They have made these comments before , even charged elders with contacting the inactive.

  I am still waiting, nobody ever called me. The local congregation know me well enough, I used to attend often and chat and exchange banter with the elders . They have never shown any interest in getting me back so I won’t hold my breath now.
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  Geehovah this and Geehovah that.

  by Foolednomore in

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  some jw's used geehovah like a worn out sunday dish rag.

  and so as those with a trade or talent.

  in my hall my family owned an auto repair shop.

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  BluesBrother

  It has often struck me that JWs use the divine name in an overly loose fashion. They presume to be on first name terms with The Almighty.

  In Britain we have a Queen. I know that her name is Elizabeth. If I were to meet her would I grasp her hand and say “hello Elizabeth “ .... No way, you would have to be respectful and use he proper title.

  If that be true of a mortal woman how much more the God of the Universe? We have gone from Jews who were afraid to utter the “ineffable name “ to dubs who use it like he was their mate whom they meet in the pub!
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  What's the deal with Cheese and Apple Danishes at conventions.

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this was before my time, but there was this post that had 308 comments testifying that the best thing of being a jehovah witness back in the day was the convention's meals.

  is this true?.

  one quote out of 308;.

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  BluesBrother

  Hmmm... as for assembly food, in the U.K. we used to always grumble about it. When I was young we used to queue to stand in a tent to have food plopped into compartmental Trays . A careless server meant that you had some gravy in your desert .. and for the tables were made for an adult to stand next to and eat , so if you were a kid your meal was level with your nose !

  Over the years the service improved but the food didn’t. We still grumbled but then they took it away and we had nothing bar what we could take. Then we kept saying how we wanted the hot food back !
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  JW’s and Charity Organizations

  by longgone in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was wondering if anyone is aware of the jw’s in general being involved financially and/or as volunteers in charity organizations?

  i was a born in jw for 56 years and left in 2016. as far as i remember there was never any encouragement to help in the community in any way.

  including soup kitchens, tutoring at schools, united way, etc.

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  BluesBrother

  When I was a Cong. Secretary back in the day I used to run the Gift Aid scheme whereby the cong claimed back the income tax contributors had paid on their donations. Every year we received a cheque from The Government. Thank you.

  Nowadays I think it has to be done through Bethel, if it still exists. Our only claim to being a charity was being a recognised religion,but that was enough to have the British tax payer subsidise the work.

  Nowadays the Society makes much of their relief work after disasters but that is for their own , through the congregations, not for the community...
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  Counseling for Ex JW

  by Iamallcool in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been thinking that it would be very nice if the us government would be willing to fund ex jw counseling services all over the united states.

  i understand that many counselors do not really understand ex jw issues but we can educate them if we have additional funds, etc…if someone here is willing to write a letter to their local representative about it, that would be great!

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  BluesBrother

  You have to have been in it to understand the subtle pressures that it applies. The belief the “ Jehovah will be displeased with me if I ........ “ is very difficult to break . The argument that “ Now you are going against the Holy Spirit “ when you think contrary to the Society is a hard to fight against in the early days of waking up .

  An outsider doesn’t usually grasp all that .