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  Hi people!

  by ozziepost in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi guys, owyergoin?

  (that’s australian for youse foreigners!

  haven’t called in quite a while but just called by to say “i’m still standing and still enjoying shiraz !.

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  BluesBrother

  Hi Ozzie , you are well remembered... Sorry to read of the passing of your good lady . They must have been dark days

  I have no Shiraz but I will raise a nice English cup of tea in your honour

  Now that you have returned, why not stick around?
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  Any in-house word on Ukrainian Witnesses form HQ?

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has anyone heard any word on active witnesses inside the ukraine and what has been happening with them the last week or so?

  i checked the official org website but there was just the expected "fulfilling bible prophecy" stuff.

  perhaps someone here has bethel contacts who have leaked some info on what the gb is trying to do for these victims of putin's madness?.

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  BluesBrother

  Just had a look on JW Talk, the forum for active Witnesses. There is a lot of rumours about saying that all the dubs in Ukraine were instructed to Leave just before the invasion. No one knows how true that is. To be practical, with over 100k in Ukraine it was never going to be all of them

  The JWtalkers are most concerned for their brothers but we can see a larger picture and feel for millions of citizens affected.
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  A little something you have not yet heard.

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i hope to make a very interesting post here, and informative.

  i’m quite sure no one here has heard this content.

  i would like to finally make known some heretofore undisclosed details concerning something that has affected probably everyone on this board to some degree.

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  BluesBrother

  Involved? At the time I took a print of the list of NGOs , from the UN website. There as clear as day was the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society. There among the supporting organisations..... that is what I call involvement.
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  A little something you have not yet heard.

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i hope to make a very interesting post here, and informative.

  i’m quite sure no one here has heard this content.

  i would like to finally make known some heretofore undisclosed details concerning something that has affected probably everyone on this board to some degree.

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  BluesBrother

  The Watchtower has toned down the rhetoric a lot in recent years and that apples to Babylon the Great, the U N and homosexuality. The position on these things has not changed but they say it more politely now.

  They did say this in May 2020 which is pretty recent

  "…………
  The king of the north has supported the king of the south in one key endeavor; they “put in place the disgusting thing that causes desolation.” (Dan. 11:31) That “disgusting thing” is the United Nations.

  18. Why is the United Nations described as a “disgusting thing”?

  18 The United Nations organization is described as a “disgusting thing” because it claims to be able to do something that only God’s Kingdom can do​—bring world peace. And the prophecy says that the disgusting thing “causes desolation” because the United Nations will play a key role in the destruction of all false religion.”

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  NB .. 20 years ago I was new to this board having recently awoke to WT , I was shocked to think that all the time I had conducted Group Studies in the Rev book lambasting the U N, they were cozying up to it as an NG O!
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  "That's not the Jehovah I know..."

  by under the radar in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  sometime in late 2014 or early 2015, a video of tony morris giving a talk about giving one's all was released by the borg.

  he was belittling those who had one excuse or another for doing less than (he thought) they should.

  he mocked those who relied on the thought that "jehovah knows my circumstances and he doesn't think any less of me" or some such.

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  BluesBrother

  “this totally makes sense now, you made it sound like it was bad".

  I have had conversations with Witness friends where they just could not see the point. I pointed out some WT misquotes and looked at them and said “I don’t see that they did anything wrong “

  What do you do when there is none so blind as those who will not see!
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  Watchtower says you can be Disfellowshiped for being Fat!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  watchtower 1974 p.167 "by disobediently over indulging in food and making a glutton of himself he shows no love for jehovah..in the presents of others does he ignore their needs and selfishly take more then his fair share?

  is he grossly overweight gorging himself?

  does he feel uncomfortable even getting sick...this person has no place in the congregation of god...they will not inherit gods kingdom.".

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  BluesBrother

  That is still on the books as a sin for which a JC is needed. I have never heard of a case.

  This is from The Flock book listing of gross sins

  “Gluttony: (Prov. 23:20, 21; w04 11/1 pp. 30-31) A glutton rou- tinely shows a lack of restraint, even gorging himself on food to the point of feeling very uncomfortable or becoming sick. Glut- tony is determined, not by someone’s size, but by his attitude to- ward food.“

  NB note that is not fatness but greed.
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  Awakes says playing Chess is evil not for Witnesses!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  awake 73 3/23 p.12 "the spirit of compatition between players can lead to unpleasant circumstances...in some homes tensions linger longer then checkmate.

  chess is a game of war a play substitute for the art of war...danger of stirring up compatiton and hostility to one another something the bible warns christians to avoid.

  what effect does playing chess have on you is it wholesome?

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  BluesBrother

  We know they said this in the seventies but it has not been said since ,and they did once refer to chess as a suitable pastime so I guess they have changed their minds.

  The seventies saw a lot of things critisized as unchristian, including rock music, opera with mythical storylines, tv soap operas ........Most of which we ignored...
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  Has this been posted? Crystal Lake, IL ...elders not reporting case

  by carla in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i searched but could not find it, i apologize if it has already been covered.

  https://patch.com/illinois/crystallake/trial-starts-church-elders-accused-not-reporting-sex-abuse.

  and here too- https://www.shawlocal.com/northwest-herald/news/crime-and-courts/2022/03/03/trial-for-jehovahs-witnesses-elders-underway-without-decision-from-judge-on-what-hell-consider-in-evidence/.

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  BluesBrother

  Interesting, the WT instructions are clear , and were in 2006, that in a place that requires mandatory reporting- the elders report. Were they following guidance from Bethel? They should have done......
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  After leaving the JWs

  by punkofnice in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  how do i view the world after leaving the jws?.

  1. most politicians are disgusting filth.

  political parties are disgusting filth.

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  BluesBrother

  Pete...... you said “You reach an age where everyone you love leaves or is facing crisis”

  Too right there mate. It is sad to see old friends ravaged by the effects of time and old age..... However we are still here ! And it is good to see your picture. You are a good looking son of a ( you choose the word) !

  Stay peaceful

  [ Edit... Apologies to Punk for co opting his thread]
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  Do you remember GRACE GOUGH?

  by LullingtonRd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello, i am grace gough's granddaughter:.

  i have started a blog that begins at the beginning and this is with grace.

  follow along as i dive into her life - and please do reach out if you have any stories to share with me that i can add to my blog.. you can find the blog here:.

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  BluesBrother

  I remember her well. She is still missed