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  Conditions of Watchtower Baptism

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i understand that there are 80 to 100 questions that would-be witnesses must answer correctly before they can be considered eligible for "christian baptism".

  however i have noticed that none of the questions relate to the 607destruction, the 1914 invisible presence and enthronement, or even the 1919 appointment of the faithful slave.. now some may feel my question is ridiculous, but bear with me.. will jehovah's witnesses baptize someone who answers all 100 questions satisfactorily, but rejects 607, 1914 and 1919 and the events the watchtower associates with these dates if they agree not to express their rejection to others?.

  your thoughts....

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  BluesBrother

  On the day of baptism the candidate has to publicly answer ‘yes’ to these two questions

  1) “Have you repented of your sins, dedicated yourself to Jehovah, and accepted his way of salvation through Jesus Christ?”
  
  (2) “Do you understand that your baptism identifies you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with Jehovah’s organization?””

  I believe they would not be able to answer question 2 , if they did not accept 1914 etc.

  Also, if the person claims to not accept the chronology used, then no elder would sanction their baptism
  
  
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  Knocking on schoolmates doors

  by BettyHumpter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i left the jw's shortly after i graduated high school.

  but when i was still at home i'd get dragged into door to door every saturday morning without fail unless it was pissing rain.

  i can remember always being anxious to know what territory my group was assigned.

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  BluesBrother

  Yes , schooldays were the worst for a young JW... The fear of meeting a school mate in the Ministry, I mean just what do you say ? ?

  Even worst was Monday morning back at school and being pilloried by everybody who had heard about it ...
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  question/s for the PIMO

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to maintain the facade of being a jw, when doing the ministry, are you not advocating for the gb?

  the bible studies, after all are to get people to understand they can't gain life without the "faithful slave" ( you have to be baptized as jw to survive) .how does it make you feel?

  if you are parroting an answer in a paragraph that you know is wrong, how does it make you feel?

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  BluesBrother

  If you have no other ties then it is easy to just stop, turn around and get out. Those of us with families face bigger problems. Many men ,and perhaps women, on here have lost their families because of this

  I have been out for 20 years although I am well known and pre Covid we associated socially and I attended Sunday meetings to support my wife. We still zoom together.

  When I first awoke I knew I had to come off eldership and stop it all but I chose a slow fade over several months to prepare the way and make it not such bombshell. It was still traumatic. During the fade period I felt terrible. Nobody likes a hypocrite.

  That period passed and today I am contentedly out and my home life is happier than it has ever been, thanks also to my wife’s practical view of her religion.

  . It was the right way to do it.
  
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  Dispute resolved over gift shop for Jehovah’s Witnesses

  by was a new boy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  background:.

  https://westfaironline.com/105235/partners-fighting-over-gift-shop-for-jehovahs-witnesses/.

  'a jehovah’s witness who partnered with a couple he trusted based on their shared faith is suing them over ownership of a religion-themed gift shop in orange county.. greg holland of victoria, british columbia, claims in a federal lawsuit that thomas and nanci matos of pine bush, coerced him into relinquishing his property.. “through deceit and intimidation, the matoses stole holland’s investment and interest in ministry ideaz llc,” the complaint states.

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  BluesBrother

  My family members have bought stuff from Ministry Ideaz I have seen a lot of such stuff among the dubs.

  I can see that if word got out that the business was majorly owned by a d/f person their limited market would crumble. However, they were legally and morally bound to exit the business fairly.

  Will they be facing a committee for fraud?
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  Sinthetic human life. No parents needed except the stem cell donor.

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  with this process, there is no spe&m, no egg, no conception but a developing life.

  what is the world coming to?.

  https://abcn.ws/3qozsjj.

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  BluesBrother

  It is not human, but mouse embryos that we are talking about. Anyway, what is the world coming to, indeed.

  My wife would say that God intervened when men got above themselves at the time of Noah. So he will again “ very soon “ !
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  What's this fixation with Lloyd Evans? 4887 pages?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what`s wrong with you people lol isn`t it time to button up ?

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  BluesBrother

  I have to agree with Smiddy
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  why did Jehovah create flightless birds ?

  by stan livedeath in

  1. social
  2. humour

  ostriches, chickens, emus, penguins, ...the dodo + others i cant remember.. it seems a bit mean..

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  BluesBrother

  Flightless birds , mammals in the sea?

  Why not? They have thrived for millennia without man’s interference
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  Pursue Peace Assembly 2022 .. Joseph shares stories about his Bible days

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  pursue peace assembly 2022 shows a resurrected, newly shaven joseph, the son of jacob and rachel, having a nice dinner at a beautiful restaurant in the new system.

  the survivors of armageddon all want to know if joseph can share stories about his life.. ''can you tell us what egypt was like?

  what was pharaoh like?''.

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  BluesBrother

  O K , I have just had to sit through an hour and three-quarters of this in order to get this from the horses mouth.

  It is a running set of videos through the morning program. It is cunningly done so you think at first this is a modern day family meal. Later they introduce scenes of them having been in jail . In the very last scene they make it plain . It is in the New World and Joseph is one of them … They bombard him with questions.

  Now, either the audience is not supposed to take these videos too literally, or they think the audience are pretty stupid…….
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  Zoomers be like...

  by MeanMrMustard in

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  BluesBrother

  Never mind in 50 years…. That’s more like us now !
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  Watchtower vs Islam: Why the deafening silence?

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  why has the watchtower failed spectacularly to evangelize to the muslims?

  considering the recent influx of muslim people in european countries you would think that some attempt from the religion that touts the are preaching the good news of the kingdom in all the inhabited earth would have been made.instead the only meaningful attempt dates back to 1953 ,almost 70 years ago!!!!

  book " man's search for god.what do you think?

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  BluesBrother

  Not sure if this has been mentioned but this announcement in 1983

  ”The Society has produced three new booklets in English for the special purpose of helping people of certain religious backgrounds. The booklet TheTime for True Submission to God (sm) is designed to help Muslims tounderstand the truth. ”

  Incidentally , Britain has a certain Muslim population. In my time as a Witness we always enjoyed witnessing to them. They were respectful and listened. Never found any interest in our message though.