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  JWs Still Attending on Zoom

  by XBEHERE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  another topic based on a conversation with a friend living near warwick (i talked to him over the weekend).

  he said that cong's in and around bethel, including his, are slowly starting to see an uptick with people attending in person his cong is pretty much 75%+ in person.

  however there are many that still use zoom as a fall back.

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  BluesBrother

  We always use zoom, no camera, microphone off ...... read the paper, do useful jobs make sarky comments about the meeting
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  Details of my Disfellowshipping

  by Holy Grail 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i will tell you the truth because i do not tell lies and am always honest.

  in may 2006 i was diagnosed with bipolar.

  my wife separated from me against my will.

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  BluesBrother

  I am sorry to hear of the loss of your family and your distress. Your comment

  “ I didn't say much during the meeting because I was still in shock for what I had done. I think the elders thought I wasn't sorry and wasn't repentant so they disfellowshipped me.”

  That reminded me of a case where a young sister did the same as you, a single action, she told my wife and I arranged a committee. I was not on it but it seemed a simple case that would be a reproof. She came to us in tears after the hearing having been d/f’d . We helped her draft an appeal letter and upshot was that the 2nd committee reversed the decision. I was not popular with the my own elders. I am sure though that she clammed up in fear and they miss read her. Elders are not usually insightful.

  In this case I do feel that there is more from the past that impacted on their decision. But again, I am sorry for the situation you find yourself in
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  It is now 2003.... Where is Armageddon?

  by Nosferatu in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i find it extremely amusing how each year is passing without armageddon.

  "for the year 2000, i visualize a world transformed into a beautiful paradise!

  but i don't think that either the present world or its rulers will live to see that day.. we are living in the last days of the system of things.

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  BluesBrother

  Nowadays the teaching is all about cultivating patience, and by God , don’t they need it !
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  All UK telephone landlines being phased out.....

  by BoogerMan in

  1. social
  2. current

  .....and replaced with voip by 2025. https://www.pmctelecom.co.uk/blog/are-landline-phones-being-phased-out-in-2025/.

  just heard this on a radio station's advert..

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  BluesBrother

  Click bait. If you read the article it says

  “You will still be able to have a “landline” telephone in your house, but rather than it being connected to the old PSTN network going forwards, it will now be plugged into your Broadband connection – directly into your router, via wi-fi or directly into a new wall socket. ”
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  ECHR rules against Jehovah's Witnesses: forbidding field service notes was not an act against religious freedom

  by Festus in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it only took 23 years but on 9th of may 2023 echr came to conclusion that forbidding the "namelists" was not an action against religious freedom.

  echr's judgments are binding in all eu states.. jehovah's witnesses v. finland (coe.int).

  the news made headlines in finland as well.. finland did not violate jehovah's witnesses freedom of religion, european court rules | news | yle uutiset.

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  BluesBrother

  What a pointless and trivial case to take all the way to the Court of Human Rights!
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  JWs don't consider older WT as revelant

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am relating this happening.

  i shared some thoughts from the 1989 question from readers concerning christ being mediator between god and man ( the wt spinning that he isn't ) and also the paragraph in that same article that plainly says: clearly, then the new covenant is not a loose arrangement open to all mankind.

  it is a carefully arranged legal provision involving god and anointed christians.

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  BluesBrother

  By “apostates” , they are probably thinking of the time when Ray Franz was still on the GB and may have had an influence. Now I do not know offhand the date of his departure from Bethel but I would guess that it was prior to 1989.

  Still, it is a handy line to fall back on when someone points out an embarrassing quote from the past. Why allow truth to come into your argument ?
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  New Convention Song “ It Will Not Be Late”

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this made me chuckle.

  a new song that they are encouraged to practice for the convention.. “ we know your day will come, sure as the rising sun.

  no matter how long it takes , it will not be late” …………... it is based on habakkuk 2 , we discussed this in depth around 1973/1974.

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  BluesBrother

  Hi Bribie , thank you for your comment and I note what you say.

  I agree that 50 years is like nothing to God, but we are humans and it is a hell of a long time to us. For example, to an old person 4or 5 years goes by and seems very little time at all. However,If you were speaking to a young child about something 5 years ahead you would not say it will be soon because to him it would be a lifetime away

  Is it reasonable for God to use words like soon or shortly for things that are our lifetime ahead? I don’t think so. When speaking to humans he would use human terms .

  Unlike many on here I still believe that God does not lie and that the Kingdom he spoke of will one day come. However, do not forget that the timescale predictions have come from the human reasoning of the Watchtower Society and not from God himself…
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  Miserable week ahead for witness kids in England-The Coronation

  by Mit123 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i feel sorry for witness kids this week.

  schools going crazy with the coronation in england.

  witness won’t be allowed to participate in a harmless tradition that whatever you think of the monarchy will be a lot of fun..

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  BluesBrother

  I agree with the first poster. It is one thing for adults to not want to know about this but younger kids at school are going to feel it . I have only seen on the more local tv programs the kids all getting into it , and of course on Sunday or Monday there could well be a street party with flags , and lots of goodies.

  The kids are going to feel well left out . When the old Queen was crowned I had just started school and we all lined up to get a Coronation Mug and replica anointing spoon. My Mum didn’t object back then but I guess JW parents wouldn’t allow that now.
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  All the Old JW Acquaintances Passing Away

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday, my dad told me an older sister passed away.

  she wasn't too old (in her 60s), but i knew her 30 years ago and haven't seen her in 15 years; the main reason being that i faded 10 years ago.. yesterday, i seriously considered attending the funeral and catch-up with old jws i used to know.

  after thinking it over, i decided against it.

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  BluesBrother

  Not trying to divert the thread but just picking up on what Ron W said

  “ Their new co is visiting this week and the co-ordinator rang them, irritated for their reports ”

  That is so typical, just chasing figures and wanting to be on the right side of the C/O. My wife gets the same . She is also unfit to go door to door, do they care? Not at all. She does get a phone call but only when they want a report.

  Hearts of stone, the lot of them.
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  New Convention Song “ It Will Not Be Late”

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this made me chuckle.

  a new song that they are encouraged to practice for the convention.. “ we know your day will come, sure as the rising sun.

  no matter how long it takes , it will not be late” …………... it is based on habakkuk 2 , we discussed this in depth around 1973/1974.

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  BluesBrother

  This made me chuckle. A new song that they are encouraged to practice for the convention.

  “ We know your day will come, sure as the rising sun

  No matter how long it takes , it will not be late” …………..

  It is based on Habakkuk 2 , we discussed this in depth around 1973/1974. At that time it was exciting, and relevant,as we expected the end in a year or two . Today though, how can they keep faith in failed predictions that are pushing 50 years overdue? I don’t know. I realised as we approached the turn of the century that something was seriously wrong with the timeframe.

  The chorus goes :

  ”Father we long to see, paradise come to be

  Give us the patience to wait “

  Isn't that a pathetic prayer for the ability to suppress one’s natural unease and just keep plodding on holding a faith in something that is way way overdue?

  I was reminded of the silly sheep in Orwell’s “Animal Farm” . No matter bad conditions got they just bleated repeatedly and unthinkingly “ 4 legs good 2 legs bad” over and over again.