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  Exes: Would You Rat On A Current JW?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it's an interesting thought.

  if you are an ex jw, presumably dfed, and you see a current jw in good standing engaging in behaviour that would concern their elders, would you pass on that information to interested parties?

  do accusations from exes and other outsiders carry any weight?

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  BluesBrother

  It depends. If his conduct was wrong but did not really concern me .... then no. Of course not.

  If it had hurt someone that I am close to... then yes. If it was a nasty crime then I would report to the law.
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  Theocratic Dressing Standard

  by NotFormer in

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  an enthusiastic new recruit attends the kingdom hall.

  the elders aren't sure about his style of wardrobe.. does something like this ever really happen with new recruits?.

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  BluesBrother

  I have seen bright coloured jackets and trousers in a KH.. It would be tolerated in a newbie for the sake of drawing him in . But he would not be chosen to carry the microphone.
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  A divorced single sistet

  by TxNVSue2023 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it was an opinion of someone that to be a divorced, single sister i. the organization was the lowest social standing you can have.

  why are they dispised?

  ( what if was a scriptural divorce where husband cheated?

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  BluesBrother

  In answer to a comment above, the congregation has no place in trying to solve marital disputes. I remember as an Elder being taught that we should never give advice or tell people what to do. “ Would you like to be responsible if it goes wrong?” They should just point out the scriptural principals.

  Another situation for a woman is if her husband leaves the faith.. She becomes a “ spiritual widow “. My wife has said how the various congregations have treated her totally different to when she was an elders wife.
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  "Career Christians" ignore these Scriptures

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the apostle paul instructed christians regarding work and providing for oneself.

  his bible standards and instructions are completely dismissed by everyone who's jumped on the christianity gravy-train:.

  (acts 18:3) "and on account of being of the same trade he stayed at their home, and they worked, for they were tent makers by trade.

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  BluesBrother

  One phrase that always grated on me was when I heard C/o and others speak of their “ Theocratic career”

  Ugh ! It smacks of self seeking career minded middle managers, the ones I dealt with at work… I guess they were all the same…..🤬
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  PIMI wife told to go against her husband and take the vaccines?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if a pimi sister has been told by her unbelieving husband not to take these experimental vaccines then what is official jw policy in this situation?.

  should she go against her husband and tell him i will do what the men at my church tell me?.

  what on earth will the husband think then?

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  BluesBrother

  “she talked to the elders who told her to obey your husband unless it goes against Gods direction.”

  Actually That is WT policy. But what is Gods direction? Normally understood to be used if a complete ban on worship is imposed. This was a recommendation not a command.

  I believe people do want they really wanted to do. He likely had a girlfriend and wanted rid of her. She probably wanted an excuse to disobey the controlling husband. Ce la Vie ....

  Nb I know Witnesses in good standing who refused vaccination. It is a personal medical choice .
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  Tony Morris replaced - by ANOTHER teleprompter reader!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the whitewashing of tm111 from jw history continues - tending to confirm that he was booted.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ghbhv6961a.

  i'm pretty sure the cult got him to sign a nice nda - in exchange for a lifetime residency in the house bought by wt..

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  BluesBrother

  Reminds one of George Orwell, 1984

  ”People simply disappeared, always during the night. Your name was removed from the registers, every record of everything you had ever done was wiped out, your one-time existence was denied and then forgotten. You were abolished, annihilated: vaporized was the usual word.”

  

  
  
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  Disfellowshipped for Fornication

  by TxNVSue2023 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi i want to tell my story and get advice.

  i'm a single sister ( in usa) that has been baptized for 20 years.

  i came from the world, so did not grow up in the truth and i have no family in the truth -- i am alone.. last year i met a brother & we did have premarital sex while we were dating.

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  BluesBrother

  Hello Sue. Judicial Committees are a bit of a lottery. I sat on load’s during my elder days and it all depends who you get and how the conversation goes when they get in the closed room. One positive or negative comment can swing the decision. If they are looking to d/f you they might say :

  “ She did not confess straightaway, they hid their sin from the congregation and despite your claims of repentance now he has left , if you were truly repentant you would have come forward straightaway “

  I know that sounds hard but that is how they are trained to think.

  On this board you are welcome though, no judgement from us . Please stick around.
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  New musical video on jw.org / humour or sad??

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today i discovered the musical highlight of jehovah's witnesses, recently added to jw.org.

  we had "from house to house, from door to door", but this song will be more famous!

  https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=e&docid=1014316&srcid=share.

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  BluesBrother

  The Cart Song is indeed an oldie.. I can’t believe they would take the P... out of themselves so I have to reckon it is unintentional humour... but it is funny
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  What the Elders Book Actually says about Suicide and Judicial Hearings for Disfellowshipping

  by EasyPrompt in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  "the shepherd the flock of god elders’ manual had instruction to take notes, sign and file them in judicial cases where the accused threatens suicide.

  this instruction was removed in 2020. pic 1 is 2019 version, pic 2 is from a 2020 edition.

  it remains the same in 2023.

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  BluesBrother

  I have never seen this as a way to stave off or avoid d/f and carry on sinning. If you can convincingly claim suicide as the outcome.... then the JC is delayed but it will not be stopped.
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  The rules and culture that keep child sex offenders hidden from followers of the JW's faith

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/495876/the-rules-and-culture-that-keep-child-sex-offenders-hidden-from-followers-of-the-jehovah-s-witness-faith.

  rnz new zealand.

  anusha bradley, investigative reporter.

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  BluesBrother

  I relate to this man’s comment that as a new elder he trusted the older ones.. I would have done the same at that stage. Four paedo’s in one cong ? That is a hotbed…

  I found this a recent “ Shepherding” book about disclosure of such people in a cong.

  ” “The Service Department will direct the elders to inform family heads of minors within the congregation of the need to monitor their children’s interaction with the individual. The elders would take this step only if directed to do so by the Service Department. The coordinator of the body of elders should ensure that newly appointed elders and elders who move into the congregation are made aware of the Service Department’s direction regarding such individuals.”

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  Shepherd (sfl-E)

  WATCH TOWER

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