“a circuit overseer started out by saying that on this last round of the circuit, the one thing he noticed the most...is that everyone is physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually drained...and that cuts across all barriers and demographics within the truth.
he then said that the one common thread that ran among nearly everyone was this: we feel guilty for feeling bad.
he said because we are told to endure with joy, our minds can cause us to feel enormous guilt over feeling this way...and then, my dear brothers and sisters...he proceeded to blow our collective minds.. he asked us to turn to daniel 8:27….
It is refreshing to hear of a c/o who injected a bit of balance into the teaching. He is right that JWs especially old ones feel stressed and tired and they are sick of being told that they should “always be rejoicing “.... Conscientious ones do feel guilty.
They could do with more c/o’s like that .
i have been thinking about this in relation to the directive given to elders to destroy any incriminating evidence they may have either on their pc`s ,e-mails , private notes in their possession, or notes in their witnessing bags ,etc.
to do with child sexual abuse they may still have in their possession.. isn`t that encouraging the elders to interfere with the justice system ?.
to break the law?.
Whether the WT instructions to Elders would cause them to commit a crime is a moot point.
Theoretically, if they were to be charged with obstructing the law for obedience to the Society, would they still do it? I believe most of them would. They view their appointment from God to be more important and transcends any law of man .
Personally , I would not have done it , unless we were under persecution and ban, that’s different.
When I was a Secretary I found a letter in the permanent file that said that if authorities wanted access to KH property or records we should refuse, and take the consequences. I knew then that if it were a criminal investigation against somebody, I would open the door and show them what they wanted. I would not protect some hypocrite JW from the law.
it's an interesting thought.
if you are an ex jw, presumably dfed, and you see a current jw in good standing engaging in behaviour that would concern their elders, would you pass on that information to interested parties?
do accusations from exes and other outsiders carry any weight?
It depends. If his conduct was wrong but did not really concern me .... then no. Of course not.
If it had hurt someone that I am close to... then yes. If it was a nasty crime then I would report to the law.
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an enthusiastic new recruit attends the kingdom hall.
the elders aren't sure about his style of wardrobe.. does something like this ever really happen with new recruits?.
I have seen bright coloured jackets and trousers in a KH.. It would be tolerated in a newbie for the sake of drawing him in . But he would not be chosen to carry the microphone.
it was an opinion of someone that to be a divorced, single sister i. the organization was the lowest social standing you can have.
why are they dispised?
( what if was a scriptural divorce where husband cheated?
In answer to a comment above, the congregation has no place in trying to solve marital disputes. I remember as an Elder being taught that we should never give advice or tell people what to do. “ Would you like to be responsible if it goes wrong?” They should just point out the scriptural principals.
Another situation for a woman is if her husband leaves the faith.. She becomes a “ spiritual widow “. My wife has said how the various congregations have treated her totally different to when she was an elders wife.
the apostle paul instructed christians regarding work and providing for oneself.
his bible standards and instructions are completely dismissed by everyone who's jumped on the christianity gravy-train:.
(acts 18:3) "and on account of being of the same trade he stayed at their home, and they worked, for they were tent makers by trade.
One phrase that always grated on me was when I heard C/o and others speak of their “ Theocratic career”
Ugh ! It smacks of self seeking career minded middle managers, the ones I dealt with at work… I guess they were all the same…..🤬
if a pimi sister has been told by her unbelieving husband not to take these experimental vaccines then what is official jw policy in this situation?.
should she go against her husband and tell him i will do what the men at my church tell me?.
what on earth will the husband think then?
“she talked to the elders who told her to obey your husband unless it goes against Gods direction.”
Actually That is WT policy. But what is Gods direction? Normally understood to be used if a complete ban on worship is imposed. This was a recommendation not a command.
I believe people do want they really wanted to do. He likely had a girlfriend and wanted rid of her. She probably wanted an excuse to disobey the controlling husband. Ce la Vie ....
Nb I know Witnesses in good standing who refused vaccination. It is a personal medical choice .
the whitewashing of tm111 from jw history continues - tending to confirm that he was booted.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ghbhv6961a.
i'm pretty sure the cult got him to sign a nice nda - in exchange for a lifetime residency in the house bought by wt..
Reminds one of George Orwell, 1984
”People simply disappeared, always during the night. Your name was removed from the registers, every record of everything you had ever done was wiped out, your one-time existence was denied and then forgotten. You were abolished, annihilated: vaporized was the usual word.”
hi i want to tell my story and get advice.
i'm a single sister ( in usa) that has been baptized for 20 years.
i came from the world, so did not grow up in the truth and i have no family in the truth -- i am alone.. last year i met a brother & we did have premarital sex while we were dating.
Hello Sue. Judicial Committees are a bit of a lottery. I sat on load’s during my elder days and it all depends who you get and how the conversation goes when they get in the closed room. One positive or negative comment can swing the decision. If they are looking to d/f you they might say :
“ She did not confess straightaway, they hid their sin from the congregation and despite your claims of repentance now he has left , if you were truly repentant you would have come forward straightaway “
I know that sounds hard but that is how they are trained to think.
On this board you are welcome though, no judgement from us . Please stick around.
today i discovered the musical highlight of jehovah's witnesses, recently added to jw.org.
we had "from house to house, from door to door", but this song will be more famous!
https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=e&docid=1014316&srcid=share.
The Cart Song is indeed an oldie.. I can’t believe they would take the P... out of themselves so I have to reckon it is unintentional humour... but it is funny
