My wife was delighted when I told her… She has never been able to report big hours , ,health reasons , and has often felt that they thought less of her . Now they won’t know…
I imagine the big hour ( look at me, I’m always out) ones will be sorry .
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About quiting hours
by Gorb inwhat i'm thinking: can a jw be happy that the hour rapport quits?
can you show you are happy with it in the kingdom hall?
knowing it was one of the control systems of the local elders and co?.
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Breaking news - no more reporting
by wannaexit ini didint search to see if its been talked about.
big news for jws sheeple , no more reporting.
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Holy Moly.....
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Jehovah's Witnesses and Tattoos
by NotFormer ini was wondering about the jw attitude towards getting tattoos.. redditors suggest that the only jws who have them would have got them before they were baptised.. jw.org gives a meally-mouthed "true christians wouldn't" response.. but no-one (that i've seen so far) answers the question i'm actually asking: is getting a tattoo after being baptised a disfellowshipping offence?.
if not disfellowshipable, how would a typical jw congregation treat someone who got a tattoo after baptism?
would they really treat it like it is a conscience issue?.
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BluesBrother
I have heard JWs make comments that having tattoos is wrong and would not be allowed. However, when I looked it up ,a WT said that the Jewish law restricting them was because they were a part of pagan religion and that restriction would not apply today .
The article then went on to point out all the practical reasons for not having one and discouraged it. I have never known a young dub with a tattoo. I have known a couple of older ones who had them in their youth before they were Witnesses.
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Can Elders Voluntarily Resign?
by NotFormer inan elder with half a brain (and they must exist 🧐) is going to see the writing on the wall with the way the wt is manoeuvring them into taking the fall over csa cases.
can an elder in good standing step down with no consequences, official or social?.
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I resigned .. I used phrases like burn out , depression loss of spirituality etc.. During the last few months I had been playing up a little so they should not have been too surprised. They wanted me to stay on a bit but ……
It was wonderful to feel free !
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Whatever happened to JW paedo Michael Porter?
by LoveUniHateExams ini remember reading about this guy in a national newspaper in 2010 after he had had his trial for child sex abuse.
porter avoided prison, despite being guilty of some acts child abuse.. the local elders defended him and were on his side and didn't df him, from what i remember.
then after an outcry porter was was df'd, and i think sent to prison.. anyone up-to-date on this?.
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He moved to Mill Hill, London as the storm broke and the last I heard remains a Witness.
An article on the Silent Lambs site carries this comment
”Peter Bell, presiding overseer of Jehovah's Witness centre, at Kingdom Hall, East Barnet Road, denied media reports that Porter had ever been an elder there. He said: "The courts misreported the facts. Porter has never been an elder here and never will be. He will not be an elder anywhere.”
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My Most Memorable Circuit & District Overseers
by MillennialDawn ini would love to hear from anyone who may have encountered the following the traveling overseers:.
david wesley - an incredibly kind and humble man.
just the most down-to-earth co you'll ever find.
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BluesBrother
I heard Jim Buckingham once at a Circuit Ass. He must have stood in because he was not our normal C/o. He was certainly a force.
John Blaney is well remembered around here. John Blaney stories are often bandied around .... who knows if they are all completely true? A real character of the kind they don’t have today.
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Cult or High Control Group?
by MillennialDawn ini see this phrase a lot: "the indication of a cult is what happens when you leave.
" i'm not sure where that originated, but it is a faulty categorization.
"cult" is almost always used in a derogatory way.
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It is a bit of a grey area. They fit some definitions of a cult but not all of them . I consider them a cultish high control group.
“disagree with anything coming from headquarters is a disfellowshipping offense ”
That is technically true but not always the case in practice. If one goes around the Hall deliberately disagreeing,then yes.. In practice many experienced dubs hold personal opinions that disagree with the latest doctrine. The clever thing is who you talk to about it.....
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Meetings were bad back then.
by Rattigan350 inmeetings have always been bad.. if paul had to "command" people to not forsake the gatherings, the meetings must have been really bad.. considering that jesus said in matt 18:20 "for where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there i am in their midst.”".
and then in matt 11:28-30: "come to me, all you who are toiling and loaded down, and i will refresh you.
take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for i am mild-temperedi and lowly in heart, and you will find refreshment for yourselves.
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I can’t talk about the first century, nobody knows, although if they had prophets and speaking in tongues it might have got quite lively ?
I was a child in the 50s and it all seemed a bore. As I grew older and took interest I was able to comment and used more than teens would be today . In a small congregation though.... it was not great.
I moved to a large big-town congregation as a young man in 70s . Those meetings were great ! We had a bunch of talented elders who were not afraid to go off script .. Thursdays were a hoot! Good things don’t last and as I moved on I found some pretty good meetings in one place and poor in another.
Then the clampdown started and no one felt allowed to add anything to the printed outline until today when it is all scripted and choreographed with videos from HQ ...
Speakers have lost the art of teaching.. thank God for zoom.
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My Most Memorable Circuit & District Overseers
by MillennialDawn ini would love to hear from anyone who may have encountered the following the traveling overseers:.
david wesley - an incredibly kind and humble man.
just the most down-to-earth co you'll ever find.
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BluesBrother
I second what Punk said. Today’s company men seem like clones , purely agents for “the Society “
I give you Clifford Hensman, a Bro Kensal, Tony Taverner, John Fry , Ken Wildig , Richard Cullen and a memorable D.O. David Carter
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The Great "Dumbing Down"?
by NotFormer ina few old timers on here often refer to the dumbing down of the jw organisation.
what examples can you think of from over the years?
(i ask as an interested outsider who was never in).
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The simplification Of doctrines, e.g, no more prophetic patterns , no “the Greater Moses” or any of the other patterns. You never read of “the John class” or any other class. The parable seem to be simply explained as they are... not having a first and second fulfilment.
Also the New World Translation has been made simpler to read even if it is less accurate. The songs have been changed so people don’t know them by heart now . The meetings are full of silly videos that state the obvious... I could go on.......