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  Why does it matter whether or not Armageddon is near?

  by TxNVSue2023 in

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  why does it matter whether or not the end of the world ( (armageddon) is near?

  if it was next week, next year, next decade, next century?

  what is to be gained by knowing how close or far it is?

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  BluesBrother

  What matters is not what God will or will not do…. but the credibility of the WTS . They have been proclaiming the imminent end since the turn of the 19th/20th century, they have fixed on dates that have proven false … all the while insisting that their statements are “ spirit directed “ .

  The result has been that generations of followers failed to plan for a future or get any further education.

  They are proven to be false prophets , little better than William Miller and other failed Adventists.
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  New ministry, you don’t give a witness

  by Mikejw in

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  there are assignments on the life and ministry school now where they are suggested to just talk to people without giving a witness.. they are supposed to practice starting conversations with strangers and listening to them to talk about whatever they want to talk about .

  there is an assignment this week where the conversation ends without giving a witness.

  jws don’t look like jws anymore and now they don’t actually preach.. you could get bearded men with sweaters or other such tops and women in pants or slacks coming upto you in the park or on the street and starting a conversation with you.. then you hear them listening to you and talking about whatever they think that you wanted to talk about .

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  BluesBrother

  I just had to have a look at this… here is the assignment from the workbook for w/e May 5.

  APPLY YOURSELF TO THE FIELD MINISTRY

  4. Starting a Conversation

  (2 min.) INFORMAL WITNESSING. The conversation concludes before you can give a witness. (lmd lesson 1 point 4)
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  Looking for old friends Widnes kingdom hall

  by KennethMckie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my father was a member of the widnes kingdom hall and we are trying to find his old friends who use to go to the kingdom hall in widnes.

  his friends would have known him as ken mckie.

  my father is now in a nursing home due to his health issues kenneth mckie had many friends in the widnes kingdom hall and lost there contact .

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  BluesBrother

  I am sorry to hear of your father’s circumstances, I cannot help , not being from that part of the world . We need to make clear that this site is not frequented by active Wiitnesses , rather those on the opposite side of the fence .

  I know of an online community off active ones called JW Talk , or there may be social media groups

  Best wishes ….
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  2024-04-April-S-147-Announcements And Reminders!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2024-04-april-announcements and reminders.. (3. bible studies: recent reports indicate that in some lands the number of bible studies is decreasing.).

  4 pages.

  https://pdfupload.io/docs/e3685cbe .

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  BluesBrother

  The elders are told :

  Bible Studies

  “Recent reports indicate that in some lands the number of Bible studies is

  decreasing. “

  
  

  The r & f foot soldiers are told

  “Many positive experiences were reported

  from around the world after the special campaign in Septembe

  2022, which focused onstarting Bible studies.”

  
  

  Not the same message!
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  Did you knew the Watchtower has now a Airline? Go see it here...

  by BluePill2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  busy with life .

  but had to share this piece of stupidity.

  flying freely over the evil world wide web i found this image from a recent gilead graduation festival (or whatever they call the crap feast now):.

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  BluesBrother

  I just think that someone is having fun with photoshop
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  Visiting old churches

  by moley in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i was a jw i did and still enjoy visiting old churches and cathedrals because of the history and amazing architecture of these wonderful old buildings.

  a sister in my old congregation regaled us with a story of a visit to the tower of london and walking up this crowded narrow staircase only to discover it led to an old chapel.

  the way she described her horror at almost entering you would have thought they were doing human sacrifices.

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  BluesBrother

  I have no great interest in churches although I have been in big cathedrals. I agree that the architecture is amazing. I don’t think dubs in general object . Certainly my family has and when in the company of other Witnesses.

  I have it on good authority that when they had a convention in Moscow, the Society organised a trip around a big orthodox cathedral that stands within the Kremlin. That itself is the seat of the King of the North……
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  Was Anyone Ever Disfellowshipped For Having a Beard?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i read a comment somewhere that having a beard ( before such was allowed) was never a disfellowshippable offence.

  but does that mean that no-one who grew a beard was ever eventually disfellowshipped?.

  growing a beard when such was frowned upon would surely attract the attention of those with nothing better to do, and possibly lead to sniffing around to try and find things that the "disobedient" one was up to.

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  BluesBrother

  It didn’t always mean even a loss of privileges. In the late 70’s when the beard thing broke we wanted to appoint to be a MS a bro who was bearded. The C/O at the time didn’t like it , he said it was just because he was smart & educated and we wanted to park the account’s position on him ( truth is he was right about that)

  Anyway it went up to Bethel for ratification and they agreed it , with knowledge of his beard. He held the accounts servant position for years.
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  "Everyone Wants To Leave"

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a thread about steve hassan re-emerged and got me looking him up.

  his wikipedia entry had a point under "criticism" that there is an underlying assumption in his approach that all members of high control groups ultimately want to leave*.. while it is generally believed that there are a lot of pimos still attending, doing field service and giving lip service to the wt, i doubt that everyone within the congregations want to get out.

  it's not always internally and logically consistent, but it's been around long enough for enough workarounds to make it tolerable to emerge.. what do you think?

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  BluesBrother

  I wish it were true but sadly the ones I know seem more blinkered and locked into it than ever.. Iain my young day we would have a laugh about things and at the shortcomings of the Society but now they seem to go about in reverential awe of the GB and the WTS .
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  The org. Came out with a Christmas song!!!!

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  holy nativity batman!

  on jw broadcasting.

  final song for this year's convention.

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  BluesBrother

  We should recognise that the song is new for the Summer Convention, not Christmastime . They have never contested the birth of Christ in Bethlehem so there is no reason to not sing about it .

  However, I do agree that the words do sound Christmassy … I think in the past they would have avoided it . It will pass into their library of songs , just don’t choose it in December !

  BTW … if you play the audio on the site .. it is pretty dire ..
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  Do JWs Really Say This?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i stumbled, via a google search, upon a part of jw space that is usually heavily defended against outsiders like my good self.

  in a discussion, someone started their post with "i (started doing x)... when the slave began to suggest doing so"*.

  do pimis really talk that way?

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  BluesBrother

  Yes , they do…. I think you would hear it more in U.S.A. than Europe but I have heard it a lot on at the same sort of site you were at.