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  Ruin those Ruining th Earth

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it has been mentioned before but since we have been discussing environmental issues on another thread, i thought it might be timely to discuss rev 11:18 which has recently become a popular text for those christians concerned about environmental threats of pollution and climate change.

  is this passage being interpreted correctly?

  did the writer somehow anticipate the modern environmental situation, or did he intend something more in keeping with the bible's general concerns of morality and sin?.

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  BluesBrother

  Bluesbrother....yes the duel use of the Greek word was an example of antanaclasis a literary device. Repeating a word with a dual meaning. Let the dead bury the dead, comes to mind.“

  Good point Peaceful Pete , a very interesting thread.
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  Ruin those Ruining th Earth

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it has been mentioned before but since we have been discussing environmental issues on another thread, i thought it might be timely to discuss rev 11:18 which has recently become a popular text for those christians concerned about environmental threats of pollution and climate change.

  is this passage being interpreted correctly?

  did the writer somehow anticipate the modern environmental situation, or did he intend something more in keeping with the bible's general concerns of morality and sin?.

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  BluesBrother

  Thank you Pete, that is most interesting I have enjoyed your posts for years.I can dispute other "signs of the times" but it has always been hard to deny that we live in a time when men seem to be ruining the Earth.

  I am no scholar but I would only comment :

  The NWT is not alone in its rendering , I have compared KJV, NIV and NEB .

  The verse uses the Greek word twice. If we were consistent in using it, would it make sense to read, "[He] will corrupt those corrupting the earth" ?

  Just my laymans thoughts....
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  Recently Disfellowshipped

  by PersonOfGlitter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi i’m getting disfellowshipped on thursday and was wondering what advice those that have left have for me.

  i’m not sure if i still believe or not.

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  BluesBrother

  What do you want to happen?

  If you will lose family or have other goodvreason not to be shunned by them, did you appeal? if not and it is still within 7 days, do so... right now . Any old reason will do. At the appeal committee, grovel , beg plead newfound repentence , make them see that the first decision was wrong. It might work . The first committee will hate you but no matter.

  If you don't mind being outside , follow the good advice given above. It is not easy starting over , the world seems scary but little by little it will get easier.

  Keep posting here . We understand.
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  Kick The Bucket JW Style!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  kick the bucket jw style!.

  https://jehovahswitnessfunerals.co.uk .

  atlantis!

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  BluesBrother

  Don't blame the dubs for this one ....

  ""We live and work by a strict moral code based on the word of God and the Bible which shares many common principles with the Jehovah’s Witness faith although we have no affiliation with any religious domination."

  So they are an outside company that have spotted a business opportunity. Their prices seem cheap by UK standards.
  
  
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  head coverings

  by loveforgod in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi there i am not a jw but i am having bible study.

  i came to christianity a few months before and i was searching for the right path.

  one of the things god spoke to me about and directed me in was to do away with all the vanity that was in me and now i wear the head covering and the modest dresses.

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  BluesBrother

  Good advice in the other replies, check out this religion from all sources , dont be afraid to ask difficult questions. Dont confuse the warmth and friendliness of decent people around you with the overall teaching and conduct of the global organization.

  There is nothing to stop you covering your head if you wish, and dressing as you like. JW's require a female head to be covered only when praying before others or teaching, as a Christian man would do.

  If you wish to cover always, some would find a hat or scarf that did not look like " a Muslim or an Israelite " yet would perform the same function. But that is just a suggestion. ...... you do as you like .
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  retrospect on yesterday's wt "study" 29. 

  by waton in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  go- teach.

  par.1 : marching orders given to 500 attendees, none of them anointed, but 11 partakers, jesus taught and served people with an "earthly hope" and the commission to go was not as wt now claims a mandate to the gb members; the os only being supposed supporters.

  4) new disciple stops drinking.

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  BluesBrother

  Song 60

  ”

  1. 1. In this year of goodwill

     by our God, all need to hear

     That the day of his anger

     will come, and it is near.

     (CHORUS)

     It means their life, but not just theirs;

     It means our own life as well.

     It means their life if they obey,

     So all the nations we must tell;

     We must tell.”

     cheerful little number?
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  District convention to be held in assembly hall instead of stadium

  by NikL in

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  2. friends

  last night they announced that this summers district convention will be held at an assembly hall.. this is the first time i've seen this happen.

  there are a couple of congregations in the same hall here and they aren't going to the same ones.

  they are having multiple dates.. the hall they are going to use can only hold 1500 people max.. just wondering if maybe they just couldnt get anything bigger this year or if the falling numbers are playing a part in this decision.

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  BluesBrother

  Why book a 40 thousand seater for half that number of JW delegates?

  because there is a big difference in sitting for 90 minutes for a football game and sitting for three days for a convention. Once the dubs are in, with family groups , kids, grandma and all their food and bags, it would be a nightmare if the stands were full to capacity.

  Nb. If they downsize the summer convention to ass. halls , it takes away the buzz, the atmosphere......I say that attendance would plummet.
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  Does Today’s Comedy Offend You?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there was a time we could laugh about mindless silly things.

  someone using an ethnic accent, making fun of their own race, making fun of someone’s intelligent, etc.

  we could laugh without feeling constantly offended , upset or disturbed.

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  BluesBrother

  "Nope I'm not offended. I don't recognise what you're describing either. I often watch Live at the Apollo on TV which is from a London theatre.
  

  A Muslim man will make fun of Muslims and a gay woman will make fun of gay women. Comedians often make fun of their religious or ethnic background."

  Sure, but what if a non Muslim comic told those jokes or a straight person did about gay people ?

  There is a fine line between prejudice and humour but subjects should not be taboo.

  To me, modern comedies are just not funny.
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  FAKE-NEWS.JW.ORG

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the current “news” on jw.borg.

  https://www.jw.org/en/news/legal/.

  look closely at he picture of “russian” police breaking in to what appears to be a utility shed.. first, you’d have to be a complete moron to believe anything you see.. the “police” are shown using a garden pic to open a door.

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  BluesBrother

  the photo did indeed appear on JW.org a year or so ago. then it accompanied reports of a litany of raids and abuse by the Russian authorities. If you look carefully at the pic , right side, it has a credit to a Russian State website.

  So these are certainly not "elders playacting"... please check carefully before rushing to print with false assumptions. ... I am for fair criticism, but it has to be accurate.
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  Motivations for Watchtower leadership

  by GetMeOutofHere in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’ve struggled for some time with this question.

  why would the elders, cos, branch committee, helpers to gb and the gb themselves devote their lives to progressing in the organization, if the whole thing is one big sham?

  i have 3 ideas so far.. 1) money.

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  BluesBrother

  when i was an elder back in the day, I was certainly a sincere believer . So were the honourable, if misguided , men that I served with. How can we judge the motives of others without evidence.

  Personally, I go along with Ray Franz and his "victim of victims" comment.

  But they are still wrong, sincere or not.

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