Posts by BluesBrother

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unrighteous riches? to wt inc. please

by waton in

could not believe this week's "study" : .

here is a stewart in the stew, that mis - manages, perhaps defrauds his master, and knows he is going to be fired for that.

he defrauds his master some more, in order to avoid working and instead leaching off the former creditors.

BluesBrother

WT book ' jesus The Way The Truth and Life chapt 87 ( discusses Luke 16 )

"Only Jehovah God and his Son can receive someone into the heavenly Kingdom or the Paradise on earth under that Kingdom. We should diligently cultivate friendship with them by using what material riches we have in supporting Kingdom interests. Our everlasting future will thus be assured when gold, silver, and other material riches fail or perish."

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They have long applied this difficult parable to putting money in the KH Contributions. .. it never read that way to me though.

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The Watchtower stole from me and you too

by rickroll in

think of how much time and money the tower stole from any who were in the cult.

think of the vacations as a child you could have taken with your families the memories you could have made instead of sitting in a hot bs week of echo talks and propaganda.

they stole so much from us.

BluesBrother

"JWs were waiting for a worldwide genocide of billions of people to occur in order to have their ‘paradise’..So, this person has no pity and feels these older JWs deserve a wasted life."

..........

From an outsiders viewpoint you see their point. But when you have been brought up in it , it was not like that at all. Truth is we were all victims, yes victims of other victims. We certainly did not wish death on others although were content to "leave it to Jehovah " We really did believe the message as a fact ..... it was more real than the things in everyday life.

If one is blest with talents then I can understand them looking back with regrets and those who have lost family have my deepest sympathy. For me I am just an average guy who could have had a lot more fun in my youth, could have earned more if I had saught a career, could have travelled more. But overall life has not been bad.

I am not going to waste the time I have left by unbalance recriminations. .. NB I'll still take a few swipes at the WTS where I can though

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The PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER, Sunday October 6, 2019

by lastmanstanding in

big article.. https://www.inquirer.com/news/inq/jehovahs-witnesses-silent-history-child-sex-abuse-20180425.html.

BluesBrother

Quoted.

“When Haugh and his wife, Jennifer, told the elders who oversaw their congregation about this October 2005 incident, they were greeted with muted concern. Then came the threats.

"We were told on more than one occasion that if we told other parents about this, we would be disciplined,

...........

Amazing that this attitude prevailed into 2005, Congs. had plenty of updated info by then.

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The reactive mind vs the thoughtful mind...

by RayoFlight2014 in

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a thought came to me as i was posting on another topic.

my reactionary mind, responding to watchtower's cruel and hostile treatment of genuine truthseekers who can no longer reconcile with watchtower's narrative was, " may the collapse begin".. but then my thoughts turned to how that would affect my parents and siblings who are blissfully oblivious with their collective heads in the sand.

all their hopes and future joy has been postponed for decades awaiting paradise while fighting off the black dog that is depression.

BluesBrother

I am in a similar situation and have long since given up in trying to reach them with logic. The mental hoops they jump through astound me. Orwell’s Doublethink has nothing on them.

So, if the Org. Were bankrupted by Court cases, would it change their faith in the concept of Last Days, Armageddon and a New World?

I am sure it would not

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As a JW Did You Prefer a “Stricter” Congregation or a More Liberal One?

by minimus in

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in my experience, there were three types of witnesses.

some were barely witnesses while others were extremely conservative types who followed the letter of the law.

and then you had those in the middle who just went with the flow.. i knew many witnesses who “felt safe” being in a stricter environment.they were actually proud that they belonged to such and such congregation because it was filled with strict bethelites..

BluesBrother

It depends what you mean by strict or liberal..

in my experience BOEs that stuck close to the rules would “strain out the gnat but swallow the camel” , as Jesus said. They would point to W/Tower paragraph thus or old Kingdom Ministry such and such to prove you wrong about some piddling issue. However they could be oblivious to potentially dangerous situations developing that ended up in somebody being before a J C for bad behaviour.

in the real old days, 1970’s , I served with wise elders who had seen life before becoming J W’s . We interpreted the rules as guidelines and applied them with common sense . Anything serious was hopefully nipped in the bud by acting quickly and firmly. The result was a happy congregation and “The Truth” ( as we misguidedly called it) was FUN.

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Watchtower ships

by Sektenkult in

hi there, i found out yet about the ship's which our holy stock company watchtower had in paraguay, el pionero uno, the ship el pionero dos and el pionero tres.

all three have been built by jehovah's witnesses themselves and the first 2 ships have been sold with 100% interest.

i am now interested if anyone of you heard if watchtower does the same in other countries, like the philippines, venezuela or belize, building ships for free by the cult members and selling them years later profitable.

BluesBrother

The good ship “Lightbearer”

https://www.jw.org/en/library/series/from-our-archives/lightbearer-spiritual-light-southeast-asia/#?insight%5Bsearch_id%5D=6706ae95-b80e-4919-bbad-00e3293de31b&insight%5Bsearch_result_index%5D=1

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"Do you believe that the 'faithful slave' is God's channel of communication?"

by The Fall Guy in

if a jw had the nerve to ask me this question, i'd say to them, "you go first.

using only scriptural proof, show me why you believe that the wtbts/ccojw is god's choice and i'll tell you if i agree with your scriptural reasoning.".

wait for the silence and the rabbit in the headlights moment.. i searched on the wt cd rom for references of "channel of communication.".

BluesBrother

Need to be careful who you debate with.... I've been reading the Revised Shepherd the Flock book and apostasy is still defined as spreading false teachings i.e. against the teaching of the written Watchtower.

Depending on who you discuss it with, things could easly escalate...

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With these 2 long term building projects will it FINALLY wake up some jdub's?

by nowwhat? in

with the ramped up rhetoric the last few years many were totally convinced the end would be here by 2019-20 .

and instead of making due, the org.

has burdened the brothers once again to donate and volunteer for the new and improved patterson and video production center to be completed by 2026!

BluesBrother

That link for the "enormous media centre " will not open for me "error 16..." security

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2019 Shepherd The Flock Of God and More!

by Atlantis in

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2019 information-for-expectant-mothers-s-401-e. 2019-addendum-to-shepherd-book-sfla-e_bi2019-shepherd-the-flock-of-god-october-sfl_e2020-kingdom-ministry-school-program-elders-pgme-20-e. instructions to access my profile.

https://we.tl/t-rex13nnhax atlantis!

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BluesBrother

Info for Expectant Mothers is illuminating. They are aware of the risks their blood policy brings....

"8. Postpartum Hemorrhage: Discuss with your doctor postpartum hemorrhage (PPH).

PPH is excessive and potentially life-threatening bleeding that may occur during or after

delivery. Ask your doctor how he will prevent or control PPH. Although PPH is not com-

mon, it is serious, and advance preparation by your obstetric team is vital. There are a

number of basic management options, such as using medical or surgical techniques to re-

duce bleeding, recycling your own blood (cell salvage), and administering clotting factors

(which could include blood fractions). Ask your obstetrician to monitor you closely for

bleeding after delivery.

9. Emergency Hysterectomy: Inform your obstetrician in advance whether or not you

would consent to an emergency hysterectomy (surgical removal of the uterus) if all other

measures have failed to stop major bleeding after childbirth. In such cases, early emer-

gency hysterectomy can be lifesaving"

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NB Formatting is hard on a tablet ....

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Our Spiritual Heritage of Failed Expectations

by neat blue dog in

last sunday's watchtower tells the story of a man who:.

was baptized in 1908 at the age of 20. he was very confident that he would soon receive his reward.

in fact, when he proposed marriage in 1911, he told his prospective bride, pearl: “you know what is going to happen in 1914. if we are going to get married, we better do it soon!” did this christian couple give up the race for life when they did not receive their heavenly reward in 1914?

BluesBrother

Do you mean "Expectation postponed makes a heart sick"....Prov. 13: 12

That is certainly true . Now that we struggle with the ailments common to old people, it must be sickening to those still clinging to their faith