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  Summary of 2019 report submitted by Jehovah`s Witnesses

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  australia | jehovah’s witnesses annual reports to the royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse.

  summary of 2019 report submitted by jehovah's witnesses.

  762 congregations of jehovah's witnesses in australia.

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  BluesBrother

  “we confirm that women can be and are fully involved in receiving and submitting evidence of child sexual abuse and in providing support to a victim.“

  Yes.. it is likely that a “sister” will receive evidence from the victim and submit that to the elders.. There may be cases where a trusted sister could be asked to help a traumatised young girl. But would she be involved in the consideration of the abuser or have any say in the outcome? That is strictly a male role and elder committee only.

  They would not shun a child who was seen to be a victim of abuse, but all sorts of circumstances can apply later . There are bound to be cases where adult victims of past abuse feel aggrieved.

  
  
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  3-New Files For You!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2019-11-s-77-e-notice of disfellowshipping or disassociation.

  https://docdro.id/me8ocou.

  2020-01-s-52-e-bi- assignment to view special talk.

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  BluesBrother

  Thanks Petra..... you are invaluable
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  1st Cent.Crucifixions to Order and for Sport

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i found this video interesting, from the smithsonian channel.

  it explains how commonplace crucifixions were with specific mention of the patebelum crosspiece.

  https://www.smithsonianchannel.com/videos/crucifixion-became-a-very-popular-roman-spectator-sport/69754?an=history.

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  BluesBrother

  I found this video interesting, from the Smithsonian Channel. It explains how commonplace crucifixions were with specific mention of the patebelum crosspiece

  https://www.smithsonianchannel.com/videos/crucifixion-became-a-very-popular-roman-spectator-sport/69754?an=history
  
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  Is it possible to nullify a baptism?

  by idk123 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hope you are all well,.

  i was wondering within the organisation if there are any guidelines or grounds for nullifying a baptism.

  see i grew up a jehovah's witness and was baptised at age 13, i didn't get baptised for the right reasons, i felt pressured to because my friends were getting baptised at the same time.

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  BluesBrother

  “A minor cannot legally enter into a contract....so my personal opinion is that all baptisms prior to age of majority are all null and void.”

  
  That’s being logical and reasonable, but not the way this organisation works. All candidates for baptism answer 80 questions to show they understand what they are doing. The WT view ,in my experience, is to hold to the Bible principle “ what you vow you must pay” . No excuses.
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  Self Driving Vehicles

  by TD in

  1. social
  2. current

  i was so stoked about the whole idea a few years ago, but am having serious misgivings at this point.. what are your experiences / impressions / opinions?.

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  I liked Simon's expert opinion on computer capabilities and , like others , I cannot see this happening . People love the independence of driving how they want. When out on the road some like to drive fast,others are happy at just a reasonable speed ....that is human nature. How many would be happy just allowing the machine to do it?

  Now an electric car with zero emissions ? That's different.
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  Has Anything Really Changed For JWs In The Last 10 Years?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2020 is days away.

  has anything really changed for the witnesses or the religion?

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  BluesBrother

  Significant changes? No ....

  what was bad about it has got worse ,what used to be good seems further away and the rate of growth is ,in real terms, stagnating

  Happy New Year
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  The Faithful and Discreet Slave Just "have" The Truth

  by Number 6 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the late 80's when i was in my late teens i used to with my then wife to be attend a monday night pre-watchtower study at a local elders house.. this guy was revered as very knowledgable and he was scholarly and interesting to listen to; so at the time it was a genuinely enjoyable monday evening spent with oftentimes discussion would veer far of the subject at hand and lasting to well after 11pm some evenings.. this particular night, the subject up for discussion was "the faithful and discreet slave" and how we should be obeying them without question.

  right in the middle of the study this elder said as a question not in the wt article; "how do we really know the current fds as lead by the governing body are the real deal.

  i mean what actual proof do we have?".

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  BluesBrother

  I have these discussions with my “mature in years and JWism “ family.

  They happily agree and lead the conversation that

  1) elders hardly ever do their jobs these days and don’t care for the flock

  2) the idea of Spirit appointment is nonsense

  3) material these days seems written for children, and videos? Yuk!

  4) the current GB are not a patch on the old ones

  I could list more complaints.... I say “ why follow it then?” ...They reply

  ” It’s the truth isn’t it “

  Doh! ( facepalm gesture)
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  If You Had The Choice To Live Anywhere In The World or Any State Where Would You Be?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i do like the usa but winters suck!

  florida has some charm but it gets brutal with heat and humidity.

  california is too looney.

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  BluesBrother

  Hi Phizzy

  What is “proof” in such things? Anyway let’s not turn this lighthearted thread into a political argument.

  Happy New Year
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  If You Had The Choice To Live Anywhere In The World or Any State Where Would You Be?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i do like the usa but winters suck!

  florida has some charm but it gets brutal with heat and humidity.

  california is too looney.

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  BluesBrother

  As a U K resident I believe that Phizzy paints a distorted view of our homeland and our Government and Mr Johnson, the Prime Minister.It ain't that bad over here, apart from the weather. Too many rainy cold days that sap your spirits.

  I always loved the culture of the USA , especially the South (the home of the music) but could I live there ? Hurricanes, Twisters, forest fires and searing hot summers put me off.

  Canada looks nice...but I'd miss our football, that's soccer to the uninitiated)...

  It's all superfluous anyway since I am not going anywhere. Let's make a cup of tea...
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  Secret memo to Circuit Overseers "former child abuser" who was elder\MS moved to another congregation

  by BottleGate_ in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  in 1998, #watchtower mailed a secret memo to all circuit overseers in which it was announced that when a "former child abuser" who was also an elder or ms moved to another congregation, the new congregation would **not** be informed of his past sins.

  read: institutional cover-up!

  https://twitter.com/mark_j_odonnell/status/1209556534944026624

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  BluesBrother

  I am in no way defending them when I point out that this instruction is over 20 years old and may well be different now. This is from "Sheperding Book " 2019...

  "When an individual who has been accused of child sexual abuse

  (established or not) moves to another congregation, two elders

  from the congregation the individual moves from should imme-

  diately call the Legal Department. The elders should be prepared

  to provide the name of the new congregation, if known. This

  should be done even if the individual is disfellowshipped or is in

  prison and is transferred to another facility or is released. The

  Congregation Service Committee should not send any informa-

  tion to the new congregation until after receiving legal advice

  from the Legal Department and direction from the Service De-

  partment.

  27. When the elders are informed that an individual who has been

  accused of child sexual abuse (established or not) has moved

  into the congregation, two elders should immediately call the Le-

  gal Department"