i don't know if anyone has stumbled across this video, but it just blew may away.
omg!!!
just goes to show why in dubland they adhere to the 2 witness rule so adamantly and are so anal about it.
That is a cracking great video! I love the calm, measured way in which it is done. No histrionics or triumphalism. Steadily the narrator tells her story and builds her case, leading to a solid conclusion.
The fact is that people in the Org. just do not think about such matters , and they get little opportunity to debate deeper things in Field Service these days. Elders just teach what they are told.... they are “Company Men” . As one said to me....” I just go with the flow”.
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just wanted to put this out there for any lurkers.. as someone that grew up during the 70s and 80s, we were promised that we would be in the first picture long ago.
if you are still on the fence, please let this sink in for a while..
Sadly, oldies like us came to discover that the Paradise Earth is like the carrot dangling before a donkey, or the fruit and water offered to Tantalus... it is always just a little way ahead but it never, ever comes.
The brave face up to this fact and accept it. Sadly, too many cannot do that and just carry on the same routine
In that old film ‘The Matrix ‘ , was it a blue or a red pill that they accepted in order to just keep their comfortable existence and never know the real truth?
i haven't been on here in quite some time so i apologize if i missed a similar thread already (i did look for one :) ) anyways, just to be clear i think the jw response to covid in general has been really positive and proactive and they've done really well trying to educate people on covid, doing zoom meetings, etc to prevent spread within the congregations.
the part that i find interesting is how compliant and non-apocalyptic the branch has been during all of this.
even as someone who's a bit of a skeptic i found myself wondering if this might be the beginning of the end between covid, economic upheaval, and blm.
I agree with opening comments of the o/p . I must say that the G B have acted in a proactive way to safeguard the congregation. They lost no time in closing K/Halls and stopping public field service. A new vid on the website says they will not rush to reopen halls even if the Governments say that they could. A Morris 3 implied it could be next year before tbey reopen.
I do not fail to criticise when it is due, but tbey have handled this well.
for a long time, i thought pimi (physically in, mentally in) jws were unique in their inability to simply type and read the latest "google" news results about "jehovah's witnesses " or "watchtower".
however, it appears it is not uncommon for a large portion of the population purposefully to avoid facts...on purpose!
"why do people avoid facts that could help them?.
I think they picked poor examples to illustrate their point. They talk of wanting (or not) to know the performance of investments you did not make.. that info is Not going to help you at all ,so what would be the point?
However , I do agree that many of us are unwilling to receive,or believe info that impacts on our set beliefs or makes us uncomfortable. We see this in politics and certainly in religion. We thought we saw it In householders when we went in Field Ministry. Definitely it is the case with JWs .
No matter how much information is presented to our loved ones who are still in it, they remain believers..
They know that it is afflicted by child abuse, it has changed important doctrines and now dismisses its past, they see the silliness of the ‘overlapping generation ‘ .....I could go on..But they still say, “But it’s THE TRUTH isn’t it !
based on a discussion i had with my wife, i started to compare the situation of people who are a member of a religious organisation or are devout to a belief, to the so-called stockholm syndrome.
the stockholm syndrome is where feelings of trust or affection is felt in many cases of kidnapping or hostage-taking by a victim towards a captor.
in such a situation, the person being kidnapped is not free to leave and is held against their will but over time takes that situation as a "new normal" and even starts to see their kidnapper(s) as normal people.
To a point I can agree.... Certainly if you live among it long enough and cut all other social activity.....you get to believe in it.
let's share some notable wts quotations that demonstrate the arrogance, ignorance, hypocrisy etc.
of the watchtower leadership.
“‘zion’s watch tower’ has, we believe jehovah for its backer, and while this is the case it will never beg nor petition men for support.
In 1920
let's share some notable wts quotations that demonstrate the arrogance, ignorance, hypocrisy etc.
of the watchtower leadership.
“‘zion’s watch tower’ has, we believe jehovah for its backer, and while this is the case it will never beg nor petition men for support.
" No one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds unacceptable or be made to choose between his beliefs and his family"
Awake July 2009 p 29
"To me, the "Org" has gotten less interesting"
millie ...
That is very true, even my steadfast family admit boredom with the current Org.
On this board I well remember the intellect of posters like Alan F, Blondie, Laurallea (sp?) among others . The board was more closely about WTS in those days.
Times change, even the sport forum I use has been taken up by politics in these days of Brexit, lockdown and Black Lives Matter.
But I believe this forum still does its core function, to inform and assist ex JWs. Long may it continue.
editorial in local paper by victor davis hansen , a classicist and historian at the hoover institution stanford university.. this is something i think you folks would find interesting.
unfortunately i am computer challenged due to the effectiveness of church shunning policies cutting off access to kids and grandkids educating me.
so if some one would be able to pull up and post the editorial, i think it would be of interest.
As The Who used to sing
"Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss"
(Won't Get Fooled Again)
a bit late in coming, but i have a new article on the cry of peace and security at https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/peace-and-security.php.
this was prompted by trump using the term peace and security a few times in 2017 and 2018, and the excitement this generated amongst jehovah's witnesses.
i would love to see other quotes you like on this topic, or texts and experiences..
The belief in the cry of Peace and Security as the precursor to Armageddon is still very large in Witness minds . I hear it whenever world events favour the idea......less when things go back to normal.
