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  Resurrection after a death sentence in the OT?

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have a question for those more versed in biblical history than i. .

  knowing that a belief in a resurrection on messianic times was a later jewish belief ... but still ... did the ot jews believe that someone served a capital punishment / death sentence would be elegible for future resurrection?.

  meaning: when coding the torah, did its writers intended that the capital punishment also be understood as an obliteration for all eternity?.

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  BluesBrother

  “This bears significance to me, as I'm arguing about the significance of Jehovah's Witnesses comparing disfellowshipping as being analogous to ancient capital punishment in ancient Israel.“

  In the past they have certainly used this analogy but I don’t think they would be so certain now. Everything changes in WT doctrine, don’t we know, and thoughts on the resurrection are less dogmatic.

  They know that some will not be resurrected but who ? Nowadays an informed Witness would simply say that is up to Jehovah and they will wait and see.
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  Religious groups in UK failing children over sex abuse, report says - BBC News

  by ballistic in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58420270.

  this item just featured on the bbc lunchtime news today as the headline story and the piece included a reporter who singled out jehovah's witnesses for discussion from the 30 organisations covered by the report.

  the news item then went on to feature an extensive interview ex elder and ex jehovah's witness writer lloyd evans..

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  BluesBrother

  Thanks Earnest , and others, for clarification of the reporting policy. So they do report IF they think a child is at further risk. That is a big IF and a big responsibility to shoulder.

  They could save themselves a lot of heat by 2 simple rule changes

  1) report every allegation

  2) have criminal background checks for elders and M/s
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  Religious groups in UK failing children over sex abuse, report says - BBC News

  by ballistic in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58420270.

  this item just featured on the bbc lunchtime news today as the headline story and the piece included a reporter who singled out jehovah's witnesses for discussion from the 30 organisations covered by the report.

  the news item then went on to feature an extensive interview ex elder and ex jehovah's witness writer lloyd evans..

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  BluesBrother

  The J W’s are taking a lot of heat about this today. The report press release is critical of all the religious bodies that it investigated but the media has been quick to talk about the JWs..... not without cause I may add.

  One thing, the news report said that they have a policy of mandatory reporting in Britain. I was not aware of that, I thought that since it was not legally required here they did not do it. .... can you tell me if I was wrong?
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  Daughter joining JW

  by gary in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my fifty year-old daughter is studying to be a jehovah witness.

  i am her catholics father.

  just wondering because they are not allowed to associate with worldly people.

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  BluesBrother

  Jehovah's Witnesses are taught to "Honour your father and mother".. so should should still act as a caring daughter. Just don't expect a Christmas or Birthday gift or card.........
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  Is the door to door preaching work not the primary focus anymore?

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a few months back, one of my uncles who was an elder, asked the co, why jehovah would allow the door to door preaching work, to come to an abrupt end.

  this was when my uncle was starting to have serious doubts about the organization.. the co told him to be patient, and hang in there, because the governing body was on top of things and in time would explain what is happening regarding the preaching work.. my uncle asked; “what do you mean?”.

  co said; “focus on the wt study articles in the coming months” .

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  BluesBrother

  I think perhaps people are making a lot of this article. What it says is nothing that has not been said before, occasionally.

  This is however a frank admission that in the Western developed world there is very little response to the house to house work. So are they going to stop? No , I don’t think so they make it clear that :-

  “If we endure in our ministry, we will gain everlasting life. “

  That is a pretty strong motivation for the dubs. They live on the promise of paradise!

  I bet that whenever Covid is deemed past , there will be articles stressing that the sheep are there to be gathered in
  
  
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  Question!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  since this article goes back a few years, would you say the world has already accepted jehovah's witnesses as a televangelist organization listed with all the other religions?

  your opinions?.

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  BluesBrother

  For tne world to accept it they would have to know about it. The fact is despite tbeir presence on Roku etc , few people know about it or would download the app unless tbey were connected to them .

  I had never heard of most of the channels in the article so that is true of all minority interest channels.
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  PIMO elder

  by Reservations in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i’m reservations, pimo elder.

  i’m in no position to leave the organisation, maybe some people will see that as weak or whatever, but we have to all go down our own path in life.. i would like to be able to wake people up in my congregation, how do you think best to do this?

  any ideas?.

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  BluesBrother

  I was also an elder when I learned the truth about The Truth. It was hell. I did not feel I could immediately stand down, I had to lay the groundwork, but I did a few months later. My conscience would not let me continue.

  Since then I have not been out in F/S , or answered up, nothing. The elders have let me be.

  Of course at first I wanted to help my friends also see the light, but I realised that was not possible without ending up d/fd . I had long discussions with my wife but that’s all. Like the rest of them, they are unmoved by the facts. I now conclude that it is harder to convince a believing JW of the falsehood of their way than it is to convince a worldly person to accept JW beliefs.

  Now I respect their right to believe it if they want , they can see all that I can see.
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  What is the Jehovah’s Witness position on Unions and Labour action?

  by hoser in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember you weren’t supposed to picket or be involved in labour unrest.

  is this still the jw policy?.

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  BluesBrother

  When I was working I belonged to the union. It was not mandatory but was a good idea given our low opinion of the Company bosses. There were no JW issues, I took part in ballots .We used the option not to pay a levy to the UK Labour Party.

  I suppose if I had become Union Rep it may have been different.
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  How Did They Get Micheal Palin To Star in the Daniel drama?😂

  by Diogenesister in

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  BluesBrother

  If it were Palin, there might have been some funny jokes in it........
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  How would you respond?

  by Iamallcool in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you tell a jw that he or she is in a cult and they asked you why do you say that?

  how would you respond?.

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  BluesBrother

  Better to ask viewpoint questions. Perhaps " what should we look for in our religious leaders?"

  Then when he answers show some detail as to why the WTS are not doing that.