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  UK Hospital using Kingdom Melodies - complaint

  by AEnEm in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i found out that a uk hospital (nnuh) uses kingdom melodies as hold music, apparently for some years!

  i called and heard it myself.

  i wrote an email to the complaints team and await a response.

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  BluesBrother

  Oops, the publicity might mean that the story gets back to Warwick. Still, the fact that they have taken it down might save them from being sued.

  Some local dub in the hospital administration must have thought he was being clever….
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  The young elder topic made me think of this

  by enoughisenough in

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  2. beliefs

  it somehow never set well with me that if a boy got baptized that his mother couldn't pray or hold a study with him or in his presence without a headcovering.

  maybe some of you were baptized as a boy in the home...how did that make you feel?

  ( like knowing you had rank over your mom???

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  BluesBrother

  I was baptised at a young age, that never stopped my Mum and big sister giving me a hard time though…… You can make all the rules you like but it doesn’t stop the reality of home life being what it is .
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  Just read that Carl Olof Jonsson died yesterday

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for newbies, who was carl olof jonsson?

  he was a jw in sweden who was challenged by a householder in the 1960s, who pointed out to him that secular history books don’t agree with watchtower that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, but instead place the event 20 years later.

  the reason the date is important is because it is the starting date for jw chronology which leads to 1914 as the end of the gentile times, and the beginning of the last days, as jws understand it.

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  BluesBrother

  I have not read all of Carl Olaf Johnson’s book but I have read enough of it to be impressed by the work . It methodically shows that the 1914 date and others are just the faulty reasoning of men ..

  Farewell Carl, you have left a great legacy. RIP.
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  Another new missing part of the Bible found

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/22011278/new-bible-chapter-hidden-verses-discovered-erased-scribe/.

  i wonder what the remaining members of the gb will make of this?.

  i excited to read all of this once it’s released and compare with the rest of mathew.

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  BluesBrother

  It is a pity that tabloid newspaper is our source for this . We shall see if anything more develops . However, I won’t hold my breath.. There have been many “wonderful “ finds that have promised more than they delivered. This might be a better article, if link works

  https://catholicherald.co.uk/long-lost-chapter-of-bible-discovered/
  
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  New convention video: Do you see what I see?

  by neat blue dog in

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  BluesBrother

  I still don’t see a clear beard on the guy , mind you the WT May 1 1968 said this

  ‘“ In paradise restored on earth it would not be out of order if men returned to wearing beards, in perfect fashion, like Adam in Eden.”
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  Christmas Decorations at the Kingdom hall

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i can't remember if i've told this story before .... but back in the day, in irlam congregation (northwest england, uk, cheshire #1 circuit i think) we used to rent a kingdom hall for many years before we eventually built our own.. preston hall.

  ah, the memories .... it was primarily used as a community hall for old folks, but we had it friday night and sunday morning.. there was a loft and fold-out ladder and we used to store the chairs up their.

  every meeting, there would be an assembly line of all the "lads" to pass the chairs down and set them up, then collect them up and pass them back up at the end of the meeting.

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  BluesBrother

  Yes , there were some funny things to put up with in the days when we used to rent halls. I can’t match Simon’s story but....

  I remember a Circuit Assembly in my childhood that was held in what seemed to be an army drill hall. At the back of the audience there stood a large field gun of some sort, just there at the hall while we talked of peace on Earth.

  When I was giving Public Talks one place had a portrait of The Queen up behind the platform. As the congregation arrived though, someone turned up with a Yeartext board , made to fit and covered it up completely..

  A lot of things happened in the past that would not be done now, congregations were more independent and sometimes did their own thing.
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  New convention video: Do you see what I see?

  by neat blue dog in

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  BluesBrother

  “The 2023 Convention will show what true patience really is and why we need it”

  That’s a true statement! The conventions used to test my patience to the limit and I’m sure this one will too ! 😁

  NB . I didn’t spot a beard in it
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  England: Failure to Report Child Abuse to be Illegal

  by notsurewheretogo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  people who work with children in england will be legally required to report child sexual abuse or face prosecution under government plans.. .

  the move - which is subject to a consultation - was recommended last year by the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse (iicsa).. .

  the home secretary told the bbc she wanted to correct one of the "biggest national scandals".. .

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  BluesBrother

  It is clearly the right thing to report serious crimes ,and what is more serious than child abuse?

  I just hope that by the time this makes law no exceptions are granted for religion. ( House of Lords Bishops please note) Even if that were done they need to see the big difference between the Catholic confession box and JW elders ……
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  Is the ministry really taken seriously by most JWs?

  by XBEHERE in

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  2. friends

  what say you?.

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  BluesBrother

  How do you generalise? There are those who absolutely love it and do it wholeheartedly and the spectrum ranges to those who might grudgingly do an hour or even fiddle a report.

  I think there are more that do their best than the slackers
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  Would I be disfellowshiped for this?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if a publisher openly told the elders that they thought the gb were wrong about some or a lot of things, but said they will not share these thoughts with anyone else then would this be a case of disassociation disgfellowship?.

  my guess is lots of elders meetings and shepherding calls to try to get you to say something they could use against you.. but what would be the sin in which you are not repented?.

  the only reason to be dissed is non repentance?.

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  BluesBrother

  Punk is largely right, I am afraid. I have known a B of E that built a case against someone who they wanted to get rid of.

  It does depend though on the character of the elder.. I have managed to have discussions with one or two that were more reasonable. However I paved the way by asking if I could say anything freely, and got their agreement. I also set my points as questions rather than facts . I wanted to be seen as a man with doubts rather teaching alternative statements.

  But be careful!