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  Do Animals Have Feelings?

  by anewme in

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  do they feel love?

  fear?

  jealousy?

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  oldflame

  I do believe that animals have a lot of the same instincts as us humans. They all have hunger, they all thirst, they all procreate, they all love and they all hurt just like us. Now onto why I believe this....

  Several years ago I was renting a studio that was built on the back of a house, there was a nice yard and a small spot to grow some garden goodies. It was not a big spot but enough to grow some tomatoes. When the tomatoes sprouted I kept noticing that the insides were being pecked out while they were still green. I had originallt thought it was some kind of bug so I asked a friend about this. He looked at the plants and said that it was birds pecking the insides and probably a blue jay.

  I asked him what I could do to keep them off my plants and he said shoot them ! So I barrowed a pellet rifle and waited on my porch for the sucker to come down and eat my tomatoes, sure enough it was not long and the little bird landed and the tomatoes cage and blammo I shot it dead er than a door nail. The bird fell over onto the ground and I left the dead bird there for others to see that this is what happens to those who tread on my tomatoes. What I learned very fast was that there was another bluejay in the tree and this other bird squaked for hours as if it was mourning the loss of it's lover.

  Needless to say it had made me sad because I know what it is to loose a loved one and I suffered for a long time in my heart about that other bird loosing it's mate. To this day I don't kill anything unless I plan to eat it, even a bug or spider which I hate most of all, I will not kill. If it is my house I respectfully capture it and set it free to the outside. I CAN NEVER FORGET THAT BIRD MOURNING
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  The Watchtower's view of Christmas

  by Jeffro in

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  there is an article featured on the watchtower official site about how christmas has lost christ.

  what exactly is their problem with this?

  they have been trying to tell people for years that jesus wasn't born at christmas time, and then they get upset when other people behave the same way.

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  oldflame

  The WTBS say's that Christmas is a pagan holiday, but the truth to that is, it once was a pagan holiday but did the pagans change their own holiday ? I don't think so. It was changed by Christians.

  Now for me Christmas is just another day not so much because the scriptures don't teach anything about celebrating holidays except for weddings and passover but because it is so commercialized it makes me sick. this time of year is disturbing for me because of how people react when shopping for gifts. I have heard many of horror stories about fighting and foul language towards others when shopping because of a stupid little toy.

  I don't put up a tree or hang lights around my house mainly because I have no wife or children in my home, and I might change that if there were others here, but I find it pointless to do so for myself. The only thing I find good out of Christmas is the FOOD !!!!
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  Rebellious angels.....why were they men and not women?

  by gumby in

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  when jehovahs angels went ballistic before the flood.....for some reason these angels were only males who wanted all the hot babes on earth.

  none of the angels decided to become a girl that went after all the dudes with nice fannys on earth.

  how was it that every angel who went bad became a male?.

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  oldflame

  Gumby,

  That picture explains the WTBS supporting child molestors as the little boy is naked in the picture.....Freakin preverts !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  What's The Most Important Thing In Your Life Now???

  by minimus in

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  god?

  family?

  friends?

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  oldflame

  Jesus
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  Is it all downhill after leaving JW's?

  by lynnmelo in

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  i know many people will get angry at this, but i had to share some observations i've had since i discovered this board a couple of days ago (see my original post under "why all the venom?").

  i'll be very honest and say that i was hoping that i would discover that the jw's were wrong about some things, including the so-called "apostate" sites (i have been recommended to some internet sites and some books that i plan to investigate further).

  i was hoping to find that people really didn't need the jw's "spiritual food" to remain true to god.

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  oldflame

  Have you ever read in the bible "that the truth will set you free" ? Well when I was involved in the organisation I was not free, not in God or Christ.

  Today I have the real truth and it is in Christ and not Jehovahs Witnesses. I love the Lord with all my heart and with that I am a free man and a man with peace of mind, heart and soul. That is the peace you get when you find the real thruth in Jesus Christ.

  I wish you all the luck in your search. God Bless
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  Do YOU Consider Yourself An Apostate?

  by Golf in

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  i find this labeling insulting and misdirected.

  i have been lied, deceived/tricked by a group of men posing as god's direct channel of communication.

  when a group of men heightens the expectations of a world change to happen in 1975 (armageddon) to its' adherents and nothing occurs and then blame their adherents for thinking such thoughts, this is outright deception.

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  The scriptures teaches that an apostate is someone who leaves God, I did not leave God but I left an organisation. I was told by my witness mother one time that I was an apostate because I left the organisation, I told her that an apostate was someone who left God. She stated that since I left the organisation that I had left God. I told her that was absurd thinking and that she should study her bible a lot better.
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  I'm an atheist, so why does some religious music move me so much?

  by nicolaou in

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  i often find myself playing george harrison's 'my sweet lord' while i'm at my pc and i can't help but resonate with his genuine, heartfelt devotion, his appeal to christ or krishna.

  the way he opens and pours out his heart to his 'lord' is inspiring.

  a while back, i went to a catholic church to see two friends renew their wedding vows.

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  oldflame

  Scully is right to a point but I also believe that God gave us a conscience. The Holy Spirit works through our conscience and it could be that is what you are receiving.
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  How do you give a cat a pill?

  by Elsewhere in

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  my cat is a little sick (all sorts of nasty things coming out the business end .

  i was also given some pills that need to be administered once a day... but she will pitch an absolute fit when i try to stick it down her mouth.

  she always manages to bring it back up and slobber it onto the floor.

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  oldflame

  I had to give my cat a worming pill once and the vet told me to put some butter on the end of your finger and set the pill in the butter. Grab the cat with your arm around it and with the thumb and index finger sqeeze the jaw and it will open, then insert the finger with the pill to the back of the throat and wipe the butter and pill onto it's tounge. No problem and the cat will love the butter.
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  Taking control over our lives.

  by Lady Lee in

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  this is such a huge issue for me.

  i don't want anyone to tell me what to do or how to live.

  in part this is due to the control that the wts and the elders had over my life.

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  oldflame

  They didn't control me because I wouldn't let them. I am not one to be controlled. Anywhere by anyone, I have always been that way long before the WTBS
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  God only hears SOME prayers.....but not all.

  by gumby in

  1. watchtower
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  if you are a loser who doesn't know god....but you would like to, and you haven't conformed your life to him, nor fear him yet because you don't know him ....he doesn't listen to you.

  you must conform first.....then he'll listen.. below are various quotes from the society.. watchtower, may 15, 1990, pp.11-12 fear jehovah, the hearer of prayerfear jehovah, the hearer of prayer.

  a restricted privilege.

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  oldflame

  I can tell you one of the most important prayers answered for me was about the WTBS. I told God that if I were to be decieved again I might as well be dead, I was lead to the internet and did a search on JW's. I had no previous knowledge of computers then and did not have my own until about 2 weeks after I prayed. I truly felt that the Holy Spirit directed me to that search. Thats just one !