I disagree with this thing that it's not the elders fault. Bull hucky ! This is a conscience matter and how can any person in their right mind have a clear conscience when reporting this serious matter and not give clear evidence in order to prosecute slime bags as these who molest children !
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How I handled Child Abuse cases when I was an Elder (1996-2006)
by slmdf inhey ya'll.
i know there is a lot of buzz due to the nbc story.
i thought i'd share my experience as an elder dealing with abuse.. i attended 23 different congregations in my life and served as an elder or ms in 9 of them.
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This is absurd!!!!!!!!!!!
by oldflame inthis is so bad people, why are we sitting on our arses and doing nothing about things like this.
this young man gave his life, he will probably never have a wife and family for the rest of his life and this is how they are treated ?
this administration should be ashamed of themselves and i mean down right on their knees ashamed.
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oldflame
I guess what I want to know is; why, in every generation, is there a segment of the population so easily deluded into putting their lives and future on the line? This has happened to every man who has ever seen action, in the history of time. Why would it be any different now? Why would the recruitment officers suddenly start telling the truth about military service?
Yes and like all the times before people were sick of it, I don't think there ever was a friendly war ! Government is government and I don't think will change for better but gets worse. Remember this country had a revolutionary war already, who is to say it will not or cannot happen again. Heaven forbid if it were to happen but it very well could.
People are tired of the deception from government, America is loosing it's freedoms everyday !
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Barbara Anderson is on NBC Nightly News Tonight 11/21/07
by AndersonsInfo ina producer with nbc in new york called within the past hour to tell me that the segment i interviewed for (once in nashville, tn in august and once in washington, dc in october) is set to air tonight on nbc nightly news with brian williams, that is, if no huge calamity takes place to bump the feature.
this piece will be two minutes and 45 seconds long, the longest slot nightly news has for topics of interest, and will feature a discussion about the court documents that are found on the cd i recently produced, "secrets of pedophilia in an american religion, jehovah's witnesses in crisis.
in addition, nbc's internet site, msn, will follow with a detailed story.
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oldflame
I can't wait !
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This is absurd!!!!!!!!!!!
by oldflame inthis is so bad people, why are we sitting on our arses and doing nothing about things like this.
this young man gave his life, he will probably never have a wife and family for the rest of his life and this is how they are treated ?
this administration should be ashamed of themselves and i mean down right on their knees ashamed.
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oldflame
The legacy is dead people and worse for politicians ,is crippled people coming back , that's why you're politicians don't send their own kids to war.
Yeah isn't that funny, the politicians make war and then hide theri own children from it. What a bunch of cowards if you ask me they should be the first ones there to fight.
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This is absurd!!!!!!!!!!!
by oldflame inthis is so bad people, why are we sitting on our arses and doing nothing about things like this.
this young man gave his life, he will probably never have a wife and family for the rest of his life and this is how they are treated ?
this administration should be ashamed of themselves and i mean down right on their knees ashamed.
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oldflame
He will feel he went to the edge for those who wouldn't even look him up!
This just makes my heart weep!!!!!!!!!!!!
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This is absurd!!!!!!!!!!!
by oldflame inthis is so bad people, why are we sitting on our arses and doing nothing about things like this.
this young man gave his life, he will probably never have a wife and family for the rest of his life and this is how they are treated ?
this administration should be ashamed of themselves and i mean down right on their knees ashamed.
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oldflame
in future those who declare wars on anyone should be in the front line leading the troops....that will test their mettle
You know in the old days of yore this was how wars were fought. Even Washington lead his fights. But this chicken turd Bush is just that nothing more than a turd.
I am a vet also, I am not a war vet but none the less an honorably discharged vet. When Reagan took office he passed a bill that if you did not use your benefits after two years of leaving the military you lost them all, I lost them all ! Even my college that I had coming.
I have been telling ny nephews to stay out of the services for right now at least and all the young men I say the same.
I know this has happened in the past too but this really hit me hard when I saw this young mans face and for him to even having to apply for anything is just plain absurd.
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This is absurd!!!!!!!!!!!
by oldflame inthis is so bad people, why are we sitting on our arses and doing nothing about things like this.
this young man gave his life, he will probably never have a wife and family for the rest of his life and this is how they are treated ?
this administration should be ashamed of themselves and i mean down right on their knees ashamed.
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oldflame
Hey everyone who lives in other countries that had soldiers fight in Iraq ? Are your soldiers being treated like this also or is it just this country ?
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This is absurd!!!!!!!!!!!
by oldflame inthis is so bad people, why are we sitting on our arses and doing nothing about things like this.
this young man gave his life, he will probably never have a wife and family for the rest of his life and this is how they are treated ?
this administration should be ashamed of themselves and i mean down right on their knees ashamed.
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oldflame
This is so bad people, why are we sitting on our arses and doing nothing about things like this. This young man gave his life, he will probably never have a wife and family for the rest of his life and this is how they are treated ? This administration should be ashamed of themselves and I mean down right on their knees ashamed. Our government is absolutely pathetic and it really pisses me off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WASHINGTON, Illinois (CNN) -- Ty Ziegel peers from beneath his Marine Corps baseball cap, his once boyish face burned beyond recognition by a suicide bomber's attack in Iraq just three days before Christmas 2004.
Ty Ziegel, a Marine, was badly wounded in Iraq. He battled the VA over disability benefits when he returned.
He lost part of his skull in the blast and part of his brain was damaged. Half of his left arm was amputated and some of the fingers were blown off his right hand.
Ziegel, a 25-year-old Marine sergeant, knew the dangers of war when he was deployed for his second tour in Iraq.
But he didn't expect a new battle when he returned home as a wounded warrior: a fight with the Department of Veterans Affairs.
"Sometimes, you get lost in the system," he told CNN. "I feel like a Social Security number. I don't feel like Tyler Ziegel."
His story is one example of how medical advances in the battlefield have outpaced the home front. Many wounded veterans return home feeling that the VA system, specifically its 62-year-old disability ratings system, has failed them. Watch Ziegel display his model skull »
"The VA system is not ready, and they simply don't have time to catch up," Tammy Duckworth -- herself a wounded veteran who heads up the Illinois Department of Veteran Affairs -- told the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee in March.
VA Acting Secretary Gordon Mansfield said cases like Ziegel's are rare -- that the majority of veterans are moving through the process and "being taken care of." He also said most veterans are fairly compensated.
"Any veteran with the same issue, if it's a medical disability, ... it is going to get the same exact result anywhere in our system," he said.
Saturday and Sunday, 8 p.m. ET see full schedule »More than 28,500 troops have been wounded in Operation Iraqi Freedom, including about 8,500 that have needed air transport, according to the U.S. military. See photos of these Iraq war heroes »
A recent Harvard study found that the cost of caring for those wounded over the course of their lifetime could ultimately cost more than $660 billion.
In Ziegel's case, he spent nearly two years recovering at Brooke Army Medical Center in Texas. Once he got out of the hospital, he was unable to hold a job. He anticipated receiving a monthly VA disability check sufficient to cover his small-town lifestyle in Washington, Illinois.
Instead, he got a check for far less than expected. After pressing for answers, Ziegel finally received a letter from the VA that rated his injuries: 80 percent for facial disfigurement, 60 percent for left arm amputation, a mere 10 percent for head trauma and nothing for his left lobe brain injury, right eye blindness and jaw fracture.
"I don't get too mad about too many things," he said. "But once we've been getting into this, I'm ready to beat down the White House door if I need to."
"I'm not expecting to live in the lap of luxury," he added. "But I am asking them to make it comfortable to raise a family and not have to struggle."
Within 48 hours of telling his story to CNN this summer, the Office of then-VA Secretary Jim Nicholson acted on Ziegel's case. The VA changed his head trauma injury, once rated at 10 percent, to traumatic brain injury rated at 100 percent, substantially increasing his monthly disability check.
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Duckworth, the Illinois VA chief, knows exactly what Ziegel and other severely wounded vets are going through. She lost both her legs when a rocket-propelled grenade struck her Blackhawk helicopter on November 12, 2004. Her right arm was also shattered. Watch how Duckworth's wounds changed her life »
She told CNN she received "incredible care" at Walter Reed for 13 months, but soon realized the transition to the VA wouldn't be as smooth.
"I started worrying about the fact that maybe this country won't remember in five years that there are these war wounded," Duckworth said.
Garrett Anderson with the Illinois National Guard, for example, has been fighting the VA since October 15, 2005. Shrapnel tore through his head and body after a roadside bomb blew up the truck he was driving. He lost his right arm.
The VA initially rejected his claim, saying his severe shrapnel wounds were "not service connected." Watch Anderson describe "my arm was hanging there" »
"Who would want to tell an Iraqi or Afghanistan soldier who was blown up by an IED that his wounds were not caused by his service over there?" said Anderson's wife, Sam.
After pressure from Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois, the VA acted on Anderson's case. He has since been awarded compensation for a traumatic brain injury.
"It upsets me that the VA system operates in a way that it takes people of power -- and who you know and what you know -- to get what you want," said Anderson, who is now retired.
When asked about Anderson's case specifically, the VA's Mansfield said such cases make him "more dedicated" to fixing the system.
In July, President Bush and a commission appointed to review the care of veterans returning from war announced the need for a complete overhaul of the disability ratings system, which dates back to World War II. The VA is now considering action on the commission's recommendations.
Ziegel eventually won his battle. Still he feels for so many others he believes are getting cheated by the system.
"We're feeding the war machine, but you never think of the war machine that comes home and needs, you know, feeding back home," he said.
His family hopes they don't have to fight the VA again. In August, Ty Ziegel's brother, 22-year-old Zach Ziegel, was deployed to Iraq.
"I want to make the VA system better because if he has to go through anything I went through, that's really going to upset me. That'll make my fuse real short and hot," Ty Ziegel said. E-mail to a friend
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Imaginary Elections- What JWD Poster Would Be President/ Vice President ?
by flipper inso it's friday night, let's have a little fun here !
in an imaginary election who of all of us posting here on jwd would you pick to be president and vice-president ?
we have such a great selection of odd ducks and funny people here it should be funny!
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I think anyone of us can do a better job than who we have there now.
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If your God were in charge...
by nvrgnbk inwhat would the world be like?.
for example, today orthodox jews and christians don't kill witches and homosexuals because they can't legally.. but if things were as their god decreed in the bible, they'd be dead.. islam, when it has enough power to enforce it's laws, summarily kills and dismembers those that offend allah.. so if you're unhappy with all the gays and druggies and atheists and witches and hippies, are you secretly longing for the day when your deity of choice exterminates them?.
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Well to be perfectly honest ? I think that if my God were running things it would be a heck of a lot better than who is running things now. The leader of my country should be ashamed of himself, to call himself a believer and do the things this countries Government has done.
