Posts by Raphael

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NEW HEAVENS AND NEW EARTH

by Raphael in

any one done some research on the above from a non jw view:.

some points of view suggest that at some point all the barriers that prohibit movement between the physical world and the spritual will be removed and that glorified bodies will allow us to materialize and dematerialize at will and to transfer as it were between the various dimensions that exist in our universe and beyond, and in this sense "god brings together all things in christ, both things on the earth and things in the heavens" and also in this sense new jerusalem comes down from heaven and god himself resides with them".. and so in this way also will those who dwell in the heavens enjoy access to the physical world in order to enjoy the whole of creation including the animal world.. .

any other points view ??.

Raphael

The angels that forsook their "proper dwelling place" - abused the ability they had - they turned away from God and misused the power they had to cause harm - they chose to abandon heaven permanently and rejected God's authority.

Other faithful angels however, also materialised bodies and came to earth i.e the angels that visited Abraham , Gabriel and lets not forget Jesus himself who continued to live on earth before his ascension into heaven.

Also according to Genesis before mans fall, God would enter the garden of Eden and commune with Adam - although he chose at that time to remain unseen - Adam had not yet eaten of the tree of life.

Revelation 20:3 "The tent of God is with mankind , and he will reside with them"

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NEW HEAVENS AND NEW EARTH

by Raphael in

any one done some research on the above from a non jw view:.

some points of view suggest that at some point all the barriers that prohibit movement between the physical world and the spritual will be removed and that glorified bodies will allow us to materialize and dematerialize at will and to transfer as it were between the various dimensions that exist in our universe and beyond, and in this sense "god brings together all things in christ, both things on the earth and things in the heavens" and also in this sense new jerusalem comes down from heaven and god himself resides with them".. and so in this way also will those who dwell in the heavens enjoy access to the physical world in order to enjoy the whole of creation including the animal world.. .

any other points view ??.

Raphael

PS: If you are a Biblenut, Brooklyn Scholar or Jesus Freak these brief pearls of wisdom just whistled through the old heavens waaay over ya head ..

Mmm we have issues do we ,nothing like a bit of insecurity to bring out the best in folk hey?

If you are intellectually challenged and must have labels to make sense of the world around you, then add the label seeker to your list and I might just fit inside one of those little boxes you have to neatly package others into.

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NEW HEAVENS AND NEW EARTH

by Raphael in

any one done some research on the above from a non jw view:.

some points of view suggest that at some point all the barriers that prohibit movement between the physical world and the spritual will be removed and that glorified bodies will allow us to materialize and dematerialize at will and to transfer as it were between the various dimensions that exist in our universe and beyond, and in this sense "god brings together all things in christ, both things on the earth and things in the heavens" and also in this sense new jerusalem comes down from heaven and god himself resides with them".. and so in this way also will those who dwell in the heavens enjoy access to the physical world in order to enjoy the whole of creation including the animal world.. .

any other points view ??.

Raphael

Yeah - sound cool to me also

"beam me up Scotty" - might not be such a far fetched idea then...

And perhaps shape shifting would be on the menu too - so if you fancy the idea of surfing in and out of worm holes or gliding like an eagle over the Grand Cayon , perhaps take a journey through space or a swim with a school of dolphins might not be impossible.

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NEW HEAVENS AND NEW EARTH

by Raphael in

any one done some research on the above from a non jw view:.

some points of view suggest that at some point all the barriers that prohibit movement between the physical world and the spritual will be removed and that glorified bodies will allow us to materialize and dematerialize at will and to transfer as it were between the various dimensions that exist in our universe and beyond, and in this sense "god brings together all things in christ, both things on the earth and things in the heavens" and also in this sense new jerusalem comes down from heaven and god himself resides with them".. and so in this way also will those who dwell in the heavens enjoy access to the physical world in order to enjoy the whole of creation including the animal world.. .

any other points view ??.

Raphael

Any one done some research on the above from a non JW view:

Some points of view suggest that at some point all the barriers that prohibit movement between the physical world and the spritual will be removed and that glorified bodies will allow us to materialize and dematerialize at will and to transfer as it were between the various dimensions that exist in our universe and beyond, and in this sense "God brings together all things in Christ, both things on the earth and things in the heavens" and also in this sense New Jerusalem comes down from heaven and God himself resides with them".

And so in this way also will those who dwell in the heavens enjoy access to the physical world in order to enjoy the whole of creation including the animal world.

Any other points view ??

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UK & IRELAND MAP

by ballistic in

jw
friends

i had an idea that i could build a uk map of everyones location which would show you instantly who is in your area from jwd.. (it might be an idea to do a seperate us one aswell but i'll wait and see if this one takes off first, or if anyone from the us wants to volunteer to do that one).

(and australia but you are all in the same backyard anyway - literally!!!).

anyway, all you have to do is post or email me your username and town and i will draw you on the map above which will change gradually to include everyone!.

Raphael

Cool add me to Brighton ;-)

If anyone is in the area or plans on visiting let me know - might be cool to meet up !

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BRIGHTON,UK

by Raphael in

jw
friends

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any ex jw's living in or near brighton , uk

Raphael

Any ex JW'S living in or near Brighton , UK

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LATEST STATISTICS

by Raphael in

any one know what the latest statistics are i.e worldwide report 2006 ?

Raphael

Thanks guys

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SERVICE REPORT 2005 : WATCHTOWER FEB 1ST 2006

by BluesBrother in

i have had a quick look and found no references to this, so - here goes..as in the mag we picked up on sunday.. worldwide % increase over 2004 = 1.3%.

memorial partakers 8524 (compared to 8570 in 2004).

most european and nth american lands show pretty static figs - britain 1% increase, canada 0%, germany 0%, france 1%, usa 0%... but spare a thought for the inhabitants of zambia where 1 person in 90 is a reporting witness, must be hell going down to the local market!

Raphael

that was lets say the kid died in early infancy or childhood.

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SERVICE REPORT 2005 : WATCHTOWER FEB 1ST 2006

by BluesBrother in

i have had a quick look and found no references to this, so - here goes..as in the mag we picked up on sunday.. worldwide % increase over 2004 = 1.3%.

memorial partakers 8524 (compared to 8570 in 2004).

most european and nth american lands show pretty static figs - britain 1% increase, canada 0%, germany 0%, france 1%, usa 0%... but spare a thought for the inhabitants of zambia where 1 person in 90 is a reporting witness, must be hell going down to the local market!

Raphael

Question...........

What hope does the WTBS hold out for an infant or child that was born to anointed parents years before 1935, when there was apparently only the heavenly hope ...is the kid raised to heavenly life to rule as a king/queen or become an orphan in the new earth?

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LATEST STATISTICS

by Raphael in

any one know what the latest statistics are i.e worldwide report 2006 ?

Raphael

Any one know what the latest statistics are i.e Worldwide Report 2006 ?