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  Disfellowshiping only began in 1952!! Before this Witnesses were immoral!

  by Witness 007 in

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  many witnesses lived together in sin or had many wives before 1952 during the rutherford era, this was frowned apoun but no one was disfellowshiped unless they did something major like critisize rutherford!

  then in watch.

  may 15 1944 and finally watch 1/3 1952, disfellowshiping was invented.

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  TheListener

  So much was left up to the company servants back then. The organization has become very very controlled.

  Remember when anal or oral sex with someone other than your husband/wife wasn't grounds for divorce?
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  W.W 2 - 1940's Australia Bethel helps out war effort!!

  by Witness 007 in

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  australia bethel had from 1938 began to make big money!

  they employed many brothers.

  they opened a saw mill, bakery, 20 kingdom farms, and an engineering company.

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  TheListener

  Nice find. I can't believe I've never heard of it before.
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  Looking for post with great analogy - posted within last month

  by TheListener in

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  i cannot find a post where someone gave an excellent illustration about researching the wt.. it had to do with someone telling your spouse that you cheated and sending pictures.

  but, the cheating spouse says don't believe the pictures and don't listen to anyone who says i cheat and don't look at anything that says i cheat.. .

  anyone remember it?

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  Thank you so much Alpha. I really appreciate you linking to that thread.
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  Looking for post with great analogy - posted within last month

  by TheListener in

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  i cannot find a post where someone gave an excellent illustration about researching the wt.. it had to do with someone telling your spouse that you cheated and sending pictures.

  but, the cheating spouse says don't believe the pictures and don't listen to anyone who says i cheat and don't look at anything that says i cheat.. .

  anyone remember it?

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  TheListener

  I cannot find a post where someone gave an excellent illustration about researching the WT.

  It had to do with someone telling your spouse that you cheated and sending pictures. But, the cheating spouse says don't believe the pictures and don't listen to anyone who says I cheat and don't look at anything that says I cheat.

  Anyone remember it? Can someone please link to it?

  TL
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  Sweet elderly sister reproved...

  by changeling in

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  2. friends

  for having too much contact with her df'd son!.

  she's a loyal, long time witness in her seventies, with a "non-believing" husband.

  she harms nobody with her bevavior.

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  You can be disfellowshipped for associating with a disfellowshipped or disassociated individual.

  But, an elderly sister contacting her son? Those elders must have sincerely had it in for her.
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  Do the Governing Body members do door-to-door field service?

  by R.F. in

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  2. beliefs

  those of you that have been around the gb members on a regular basis, do they actually do the door-to-door work themselves, or do they mainly count the talks they give as their field service time?

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  The simple answer is Yes.

  However, as some of them age they are able to go out less and less.
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  Who "Inspires" you on JWD?

  by JH in

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  is anybody here your hero, or a great inspiration to you?.

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  Everyone here inspires and motivates me to stay free and continue to learn.

  An earlier post said that many peope here share their very personal struggles and triumphs. The posters who share these things have a special place in my heart.

  A toast to all the posters who have ever taken time from their busy busy days and nights to write a personal and thoughtful reply to another poster; someone they may not know nor ever meet.

  It's not easy for a fading ex-jw to make friends. This board has become my surrogate family and I cannot wait until I begin attending apostafests so that I can meet my 'family' in person.
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  5000 PAGES OF DOCUMENTS OF JW PEDOPHILE CASES AVAILABLE! B ANDERSON BOOK

  by Seeker4 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  barbara anderson has just released a new book on cd that contains some 5000 pages of public court records from the nine lawsuits involving 16 victims that the wts settled secretly in may of this year, plus documents from two other cases the society settled in 2000 and 2006.. .

  its called secrets of pedophilia in an american religion: jehovahs witnesses in crisis.. .

  the book, and more info from barbara about it, is available here:.

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  Great job Barbara. I want to personally thank you and all who assisted in this magnificent project.
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  Affidavit for a court custody battle with a JW mom/Non JW dad

  by Billzfan23 in

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  what kind of things would you put in an affidavit to the court for a custody hearing - list them out in this thread for me so that i can disperse each point across multiple pages, making a strong case.

  i will start:.

  blood transfusions: - jw children are refused blood transfusions that could save their lives.. how about school sports, flag salute, military service, discouraging college education, keeping "seperate from the world", armageddon teachings, etc.. help we fill in a little wordy description and elaborate on each point in this post - it would be very much appreciated!.

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  I am fairly certain that the jw spouse can bring the WTS into the battle regardless of what the non-jw does.

  In fact, the WTS has a packet they will send out to a jw parent who is fighting a custody battle against a non-jw spouse.

  I am pretty sure much of the WTS information is located on the web.
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  Luke 16: 19-24

  by vlad in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  19but a certain man was rich, and he used to deck himself with purple and linen, enjoying himself from day to day with magnificence.20but a certain beggar named laz arus used to be put at his gate, full of ulcers21and desiring to be filled with the things dropping from the table of the rich man.

  yes, too, the dogs would come and lick his ulcers.22now in course of time the beggar died and he was carried off by the angels to the bosom [position] of abraham.. also, the rich man died and was buried.23and in ha des he lifted up his eyes, he existing in torments, and he saw abraham afar off and laz arus in the bosom [position] with him.24so he called and said, father abraham, have mercy on me and send laz arus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because i am in anguish in this blazing fire.. my old account does not seem to be working, so i am not a new member but i did not post loads anyway.

  i am an now an athiest myself but anytime i ask jws about a scripture they say its pointless discussing it with me becuase i am only doing it to tear them down.

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  TheListener

  Mondo1,

  You said

  So is it teaching hell? No. It is a parable. Is it drawing from language that was used by those who believed in hell? Yes, but only because they knew the existing tradition and it fit the message that he was intending. Mondo

  I'm no biblical scholar but it doesn't make sense to me that Jesus would use an example in his parable that was based on a teaching he didn't agree with. I'm sure he could have come up with a different parable to explain how important it is to feed the poor, physically or spiritually.