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  WT is trying to scare off memorial partakers

  by cookiemaster in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don't know how many of you still participate in the sunday wt study, but i unfortunately still do.

  even though i was asleep half of the time, i did notice something i thought i should share with the rest, in case you haven't noticed.

  a lot of the paragraphs were worded strongly against partaking and used clear language of intimidation and discouragement toward anyone thinking of partaking.

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  If they are able to discourage enough partakers and the number drops it will probably only be a temporary drop. It seems newer ones are having a harder time not participating in the emblems. At least that is what I have heard from the few friends I still have contact with. Maybe they are not studying with new ones enough or aren't being blunt enough when they study.
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  KH 1st timer, could use some advice

  by rathernotsay in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey people, .

  i am soon going into a kh for the first time and i could use some advice around etiquette etc.

  i know next to nothing besides the fundamental beliefs of jws, i personally dont believe in any religion, and that stance isnt ever going to change, however i don't want to come across as rude or disrespectful.

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  Hi rathernotstay. I'd just like to say that you need to remember that your wife is under a lot of pressure to "win you over without a word" into the organization. The pressure comes from the congregation members and not just the elders and of course from herself as well. You really need to remember that she truly believes that you and the kids are destined for eternal death if you don't convert and that can be a strong motivation for anyone but especially a mother.

  You will need to be very cautious with your children because she and the congregation will do everything possible to indoctrinate them at every turn. If they need to be sneaky and underhanded they will because it's their eternal life at stake.

  I wish you the best of luck.
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  Jdub Growth In USA?

  by freein2004 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  does anybody have any information on recent growth in the jdub religion?

  other than their own reports?

  or, can you point me to the right post here?

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  From my own experience I know there are a lot of WINOs in the local KHs. (witness in name only). They know all the right lingo and what clothes to wear and what to say they like and dislike. But in reality once they are at home or work they pretty much do as they please. The comment I've heard is 'hey I haven't fornicated or killed anyone so I'm ok'.
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  jw.org cart days numbered?

  by jookbeard in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  reading a report of an elder in a friends cong has been hiding and spying on the pioneers who seem to have a practise of dumping the cart and finding a local coffee shop, i've noticed that they do this in my local high street as well but this week they seemed to be all huddled around the cart, they've clearly been warned, a vast percentage of the time i see they seem to be more interested in fiddling with their mobile phones and gossiping, is just seems these carts are a means for the pioneers to turn in "easy time" i wonder what sort of figures show how much literature is being taken by the public?

  i bet its very minimal.

  naturally the gb would say they are a phenomenal success , we clearly know they are not.

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  That's great InsidetheKH. Sounds a lot like the way Jesus did his ministry.....
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  jw.org cart days numbered?

  by jookbeard in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  reading a report of an elder in a friends cong has been hiding and spying on the pioneers who seem to have a practise of dumping the cart and finding a local coffee shop, i've noticed that they do this in my local high street as well but this week they seemed to be all huddled around the cart, they've clearly been warned, a vast percentage of the time i see they seem to be more interested in fiddling with their mobile phones and gossiping, is just seems these carts are a means for the pioneers to turn in "easy time" i wonder what sort of figures show how much literature is being taken by the public?

  i bet its very minimal.

  naturally the gb would say they are a phenomenal success , we clearly know they are not.

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  Yep. It's busy work and has the side benefit of being a "privilege" to set some apart as special in the congregation.

  The dubs will stand by the cart for a week or two and then slowly go back to their natural state of drinking coffee and playing on their phones until someone guilts them again. so the cycle will continue. All the while carts will be a phenomenal success that all should reach out for the privilege of doing.. yuck!
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  Jdub Growth In USA?

  by freein2004 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  does anybody have any information on recent growth in the jdub religion?

  other than their own reports?

  or, can you point me to the right post here?

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  The entire focus of the dub religion is to gain more members and they only grew 2%! That's pathetic.

  That tells me that gaining new members is the main stated focus of the dubs, but on an individual member level the main focus is just surviving to the end.
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  JW video Memes ...........Delusional humor

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. social
  2. humour

  https://instagram.com/jw_video_memes/.

  https://instagram.com/p/zlaylblgo5/?modal=true.

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  They should exercise soundness of mind and not use pictures from R rated films.
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  Memorial Question?

  by naazira in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  over the years, i've come to notice that some of the friends will not touch the plate with the bread or the cup of wine ,when the emblems are being passed around.

  i remember a row of 3 people told the brother to skip over them.

  every year i have noticed this behavior.

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  I also find that passing the plate among the plate handlers is so weird. I've commented on it before but my wife just thinks I'm looking to make trouble. How can she not see that it's a weird tradition.
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  has anyone seen vidio on youtube about why they changed cover of songbook search youtube jw.org embarrassment

  by poopie in

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  any thoughts.

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  Wow! If that really is meant to just be a forearm with a hand at the end that artist is messed up. It looks like it starts as a forearm and ends as a penis. weird
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  Hot topic in congregations: having a beard/goatee

  by nevaagain in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am starting this topic because i was wondering, i see many who leave "the truth" are glad because they can finally have a beard.

  is having a beard really a no go in congregations?

  how is / was it in your congregation?.

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  TheListener

  I've known brothers who have had beards and maintained their privileges and some others who were taken to the back room and basically told to shave or else. I've never known a current elder or ms to have a beard. I'm sure some on the board have more experience with that than I do.
  

  It all depends on the local elders and what the CO says when he comes around.

  In all the experiences I've had though I have noticed that those with beards are viewed as somewhat rebellious or pushing the edge. Even if they kept their privileges.