Posts by TheListener

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Speculation on future donation arrangements

by respectful_observer in

in the aftermath of this year's annual meeting and the recent tremors of cash shortfalls within the organization, i began thinking "what could they do next to bring in more $$$.".

many here have speculated that we're seeing incremental moves toward "tithing" (of course they would never call it that).

a recent thread (can't find it right now) highlighted that they recently raised the "suggested per publisher donation" at the circuit assembly significantly (tripled it?)..

TheListener

That would be hard since so many dubs are financially strapped. It would also be hard for those with unbelieving mates since it's usually the unbeliever who makes most of the money.

Of course, that wouldn't stop the WTS from guilting everyone into donating their lunch, dinner and coffee break money.

I can see it now, a short video at the new meeting showing a family discussing having Chipotle for dinner and then the young kids says no mommy and daddy give it to Jehovah and let's eat peanut butter and jelly for dinner. - narrator - Are you giving Jehovah your very best.

Insert PUKE here

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Meeting changes - just sad, pathetic

by sir82 in

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friends

ok, so let's say you're on the gb.

for years, you've been getting hundreds of reports from your hired ss agents, er, cos, about poor midweek meeting attendance, people not showing up for talks, crappy teaching from elders, etc.. so, you make the determination - ok!

here's a couple of choices:.

TheListener

Yeah, what was the actual reason given for making a change? The TMS was a huge point of pride with the dubs for decades.

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Is Watchtower beginning to buckle

by Truthexplorer in

is wt beginning to buckle under the weight of everything that is happening?

heavy criticism from the media and the plethora of websites and youtube videos popping up; and now the obvious issues with finances clearly evident.

the pressure for change must be immense and therefore necessary!

TheListener

The WTS can only mask the issues so long before the average publishers will know something is up. Most likely most dubs will believe that the symptoms are a sign that Armageddon is imminent but once that doesn't come they'll slowly become apathetic once again and exhausted from the intense waiting.

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Meeting changes - just sad, pathetic

by sir82 in

jw
friends

ok, so let's say you're on the gb.

for years, you've been getting hundreds of reports from your hired ss agents, er, cos, about poor midweek meeting attendance, people not showing up for talks, crappy teaching from elders, etc.. so, you make the determination - ok!

here's a couple of choices:.

TheListener

Attendance will bump up from now to December to see the last of the TMS talks and then of course in Jan it will stay bumped up as everyone wants to be involved and see the new meeting in action. Give it 6 months or maybe less and the attendance will drop right back down and everyone will be apathetic again.

My hope is that further dire financial driven changes are coming down the line.

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First thoughts on "new" meeting...

by konceptual99 in

had a quick look at the workbook and flicked through the sample meeting video.. the increased use of video shows the trend for more centralised dissemination of "best practice" .

sure there isn't really a "school" any more and the format is a bit different but i think those that called it as the same old crap just in new package got it pretty much right.

.

TheListener

it seems that the only real change may be that there is no more counsel slips (right?) and the every part is a presentation/bible study (like the sister's parts used to be). I also notice that the last presentation can be assigned to an elder from time to time.

For those that didn't join the school I wonder if now there is no joining so that everyone in the KH is fair game to get a request to do a presentation. That could up the nerves of a few people I know that weren't on the school.

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The Witnesses Are Really Trying Hard To Get Me Back In

by minimus in

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friends

at my mom's bed side all i see is either jw family or friends making a concerted effort to have me return to their fold.

evidentlyy, my mom has encouraged this and i'm a trapped prisoner, as they do their best to have me come back.

it's bad enough that i have to endure my mom's dying, now i have to be bombarded with this bs..

TheListener

They feed on sadness, fear and guilt. I am really sorry you have to endure this at such an important and emotional time of your life.

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2015. Annual meeting

by obarac in

any news?

TheListener

Was the reduced printing of the WT and AW mentioned? And that they would have no dates printed on them?

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Let's Consolidate World Branch Layoff Threads - Oct 2015

by TheListener in

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friends

there has been many threads from various posters around the world about recent bethel layoffs.. so far i remember threads about:.

south africa.

united states.

TheListener

I can't believe how many branches have been closed and sold.

Are there large branches in the far East?

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JWs are getting worried about the lay-offs in the ORG.

by DATA-DOG in

i'm upstairs, eavesdropping on a conversation between an eldubs wife and my wife.

they are hoping for "clarification" on everything that's going on with the construction scene.

so, rest assured, dubs are talking.

TheListener

What happened after that data dog?

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Let's Consolidate World Branch Layoff Threads - Oct 2015

by TheListener in

jw
friends

there has been many threads from various posters around the world about recent bethel layoffs.. so far i remember threads about:.

south africa.

united states.

TheListener

BTT