Posts by TheListener

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Don't know what to do

by looter in

jw
friends

i'm in a crazy situation.

about a year ago, i was going to get baptized.

it was all planned and arranged until ttatt was learned.

TheListener

Great advice everyone. My thought was to talk with the elders. Perhaps even stalling your dad by saying you want to study more and get your service hours up....all lies just meant to buy you time.

While slowing them down by seeming sincere you could talk to your school counselor, find an alternate safe place to live and find some sort of job that would help you get ready to live on your own or with some roommates.

There's no easy answers when dealing with fanatics like the witnesses. Best of luck.

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A lot of "forbidden" talk is going on among witnesses

by nevaagain in

jw
friends

me and my wife are still "in".

we had the "talk" a couple of times, but shet is not ready to leave yet.

while a couple of years ago she started crying on the thought that i am an "apostate" and even gave me an ultimatum until she would rat me out to the elders (never happened), now i sense that she might is a little bit more open to the the thought to leave one day .... anyway, all out friends and family are still in the truth and whenever we are meeting with other witnesses topic #1 is always the recent changes to the meetings / conventions (reduced to one day) which always lead to the changes to the magazines and the recent lay offs of the special pioneers and bethelites.

TheListener

I've heard similar talk among my wife and a couple of her friends and relatives. Mostly they try to not talk about witnessy stuff if I'm around so I don't hear a lot but I hear enough to know they're confused by all the changes. Sort of happy and sort of confused. In the end it seems they all feel it must mean the end is around the corner....What will happen when the end doesn't come real soon?... I have no idea.

Right now there's a zealous sister who was assigned to my wife to get her more involved in the congregation. This happens every few years. It works for awhile but my wife is truly apathetic and so far all attempts to really get her to be more active only work for a little while and then burn out the person assigned to help her. We'll see what happens this time.

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I gave the elders some ammo to use

by atacrossroads in

jw
friends

i was having dinner at olive garden with my cousin who was disfellowshipped for apostacy.

a holier than thou pioneer couple saw us.

if that was not enough i saw her take a picture of me with my cousin.

TheListener

Wow ATA that is really great! I can't believe things have moved so fast in your situation. Congratulations on your husband and the baby!

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Powerball Jackpot up to 1.3 Billion Dollars. Do you think the governing body bought any tickets?

by My Name is of No Consequence in

what if the governing body members bought a ticket or somehow obtained one.

then the unthinkable happens...they won!

how would they be able to hide that?

TheListener

MNNC, If I win the lottery at this point in my life - I would buy as many lots of land next to the KHs in my area and build adult stores, strip clubs, liquor stores and masage parlors.

With one fell swoop I would offend half the dubs and get richer off the other half.

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shunning is bad

by Sabin in

jw
friends

so i had a phone conversation last night, i'm not proud of myself but that is how the cookie crumbles.

started off all well & good then up came the arc which i was informed was all propaganda & the oct 2012 polices i got from the internet are apostate & not true.

so i lost the plot, completely lost it, & let out everything i was feeling.

TheListener

Sorry to hear about the argument Sabin. But, since you and your daughter have a loud relationship in general maybe she'll think about a few of the things you said. You just never know.

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The wonderful things you hear AFTER you step down as an elder!

by redpilltwice in

well, well, that was quite a heartfelt welcome on this site four days ago.

thank you all for the encouraging replies.

one of them was this one from magnum: "hey now, don't just pop your head in and disappear.

TheListener

Great post RPT. It's great to hear a current account of how some brothers are feeling. It's been to long for me to have any current stories to share. Thanks and I hope you keep posting, especially while the current mood of the congregation and elder body is fresh on your mind.

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Thanks to this forum 14 years ago I broke free

by Happeanna in

i belonged to this forum for about 5 years ; 14 years ago and made many good online friends here.. it became my new family for awhile and i am very grateful for all the help i received.. for the first time in 10 years i went into a kh for a funeral, bearing in mind it was at the hall where my husband had been the presiding overseer and regular pioneer for many many years.. they were very surprised that i remembered all their names and was confident and happy.. someone said so are you back in the truth, i said simply !

yes i have my truth, thanks.. the elder in question said " well time will tell ?

"and i said yes it has hasn't it, but we aren't in competition..

TheListener

Great reply to the people at the KH Happeanna! I will try to remember it for my own use at this year's memorial (it's the only meeting I still attend with my wife).

David_Jay great to have you on the board and to see you posting. I totally agree with what you said about reconnecting with other ex-witnesses that we used to know. I remember finding it really hard to approach other ex-witnesses that were my good friends that were disfellowshipped. I was embarrassed about how I treated them. They were forgiving, loving and kind and our friendship continues.

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Powerball Jackpot up to 1.3 Billion Dollars. Do you think the governing body bought any tickets?

by My Name is of No Consequence in

what if the governing body members bought a ticket or somehow obtained one.

then the unthinkable happens...they won!

how would they be able to hide that?

TheListener

When I was a witness I always thought that if I bought a lottery ticket Jehovah would allow me to win so I would get in trouble with the elders.

That is just so stupid and wrong on so many levels. Very embarrassing to be brainwashed.

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The new service meeting

by John Aquila in

i wanted to relate an experience that happened this morning.

it is regarding the new format for the meeting on thursdays in my area.

its not word for word but im summarizing what i heard, the best i can remember.

TheListener

I would love for my wife to wake up due to all the changes. But I don't think it will happen.

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Is the Watchtower organisation facing the biggest crisis of its history?

by slimboyfat in

recent developments make me think they might be.

the problems they are facing are not just lack of funds but also draining authority, and the two could be a heady and explosive mix.

one of the best analyses ever written of the watchtower was a book called "trumpet of prophecy" by sociologist james beckford in the 1970s.

TheListener

Crazyguy,

What did you mean by this statement:

They are trying to make changes so less will leave but they have also stopped trying in 3 world countries so in the end the numbers will get worse.

I thought they were still trying to convert in undeveloped countries. I thought that is what the translation offices were for.