Posts by TheListener

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jw family loves to ask df'd ones for money!

by Ghiagirl in

well it finally happened!

we have been waiting about a year for this, my dfd husbands family asked us for money.

even though his own father hasn't met our 8 month old son.

TheListener

I'm sorry to hear about all the drama you have to deal with. You would think that being disfellowshipped and completely ignored by your family you would at least be sheltered from the drama. But, it's not so.

I think it's kind of you and your husband to consider loaning them money, especially after the way they've treated you and your son. There must be a lot of pressure that not giving them the money they need will make them view you even worse than they do already. That sucks. My fear would be that giving them the money won't change how they feel about you even one iota and that once you do it this time you have set the precedent and you will be doing it again, even if you right now you say it's a one time thing.

Best of luck.

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Animals were created without needing Toilet Paper ... but not Man ... Why???

by RubaDub in

my dog and other pets do their "business" and run away and are happy.. man does not have that luxury.

any thoughts on why animals were created with the "poop and go" capacity while man has to go through more steps?

was this perhaps an additional issue that god added on when adam and eve sinned (such as eve having significant more birth pains)?

TheListener

I hesitated to read this thread for the longest time. I'm glad I finally did! It's hilarious and has made my day brighter.

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its the begining part two

by pepperheart in

its the begining of the end for jws in exjw websites i have found all these branch headquaters have closed down.

ireland.

estonia.

TheListener

Lots of closings and reductions.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/499040002/lets-consolidate-world-branch-layoff-threads-oct-2015

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Jury Awards $100K To Family Of Jehovah's Witness Who Died After Refusing Blood Transfusion

by Bangalore in

jury awards $100k to family of jehovah's witness who died after refusing blood transfusion.. http://www.dailyreportonline.com/id=1202750028414/jury-awards-100k-to-family-of-jehovahs-witness-who-died-after-refusing-blood-transfusion?mcode=0&curindex=0&curpage=all.

bangalore.

TheListener

Oh, so the JW led unit for non-blood surgery wasn't as good as it should have been and the patient died? Wow!

I wish there was a way someone could sue the WTS over something like this.

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Hello, fairly new, studying for around 7 months, just thought I would introduce myself.

by Conanthebeliever in

hello everyone, i hope you are all ok. .

my name is conan, i am 25, and from the uk.

i have some brain damage, so i apologise in advance if my syntax is off or i go a long way around explaining things.

TheListener

Conan, you've gotten a lot of good advice from the forum. It's always nice to be able to share with others. I hope things work out well for you. I was also thinking that if you want to learn about Jesus you may be able to locate a nice non-denominational church near where you live. They often have weekly bible study lessons which aren't nearly as pushy or take-it-or-leave-it as the witnesses are. Plus you can come and go and use any available outside study materials you want - usually. Anyway, I wish you the best on your journey.

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Had a operation today and was asked about blood transfusions.

by atomant in

operation was successful only minor but some interesting information was revealed to me from the surgeon.l requested that they treat me as if l was a jehovahs witness with regards to blood transfusions.the doctor said well that varies from jw to jw and l asked what do you mean?his response was that in his dealings with jw's was that approx half of witnesses will accept a blood transfusion in life threatening circumstances and sign a form saying so.l was blown away when he told me this.l was curious if others in here have heard similar storys.lt seems to me that many witnesses have weakened their stance on this controversial subject.

TheListener

Island Man you only pasted part of my post. I wasn't going to say anything but it made me look even dumber than I am so here is the rest of the post:

...but by taking the blood you disassociate yourself which saves them the time and trouble of having a judicial committee. It's all semantics with the Dubisees (dub + Pharisees).

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Had a operation today and was asked about blood transfusions.

by atomant in

operation was successful only minor but some interesting information was revealed to me from the surgeon.l requested that they treat me as if l was a jehovahs witness with regards to blood transfusions.the doctor said well that varies from jw to jw and l asked what do you mean?his response was that in his dealings with jw's was that approx half of witnesses will accept a blood transfusion in life threatening circumstances and sign a form saying so.l was blown away when he told me this.l was curious if others in here have heard similar storys.lt seems to me that many witnesses have weakened their stance on this controversial subject.

TheListener

Yeah I guess you're right OC. I just fell back on my old thinking which was the doctors would be more careful if they couldn't use blood. But, you're right it is unfair to assume that just because a doctor can use blood that they would play fast and loose with your life.

However, I would be willing to also agree that in specific circumstances with specific doctors that this could be true.

I did decide in my case to never mention the JW thing since I don't want my doctor worrying about anything other than my health and not what he/she can or cannot do.

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Jury Awards $100K To Family Of Jehovah's Witness Who Died After Refusing Blood Transfusion

by Bangalore in

jury awards $100k to family of jehovah's witness who died after refusing blood transfusion.. http://www.dailyreportonline.com/id=1202750028414/jury-awards-100k-to-family-of-jehovahs-witness-who-died-after-refusing-blood-transfusion?mcode=0&curindex=0&curpage=all.

bangalore.

TheListener

I guess I don't get it. The person wanted bloodless surgery, got bloodless surgery and died. Why is anyone owing the family money?

And since when do JWs control bloodless surgery units right in the hospitals themselves?

I thought witnesses were unlettered and ordinary. At least that's what I was told when I wanted to go to college.

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Had a operation today and was asked about blood transfusions.

by atomant in

operation was successful only minor but some interesting information was revealed to me from the surgeon.l requested that they treat me as if l was a jehovahs witness with regards to blood transfusions.the doctor said well that varies from jw to jw and l asked what do you mean?his response was that in his dealings with jw's was that approx half of witnesses will accept a blood transfusion in life threatening circumstances and sign a form saying so.l was blown away when he told me this.l was curious if others in here have heard similar storys.lt seems to me that many witnesses have weakened their stance on this controversial subject.

TheListener

As far as I know it's only a conscience matter in that you can take it and they probably won't disfellowship you - but by taking the blood you disassociate yourself which saves them the time and trouble of having a judicial committee. It's all semantics with the Dubisees (dub + Pharisees).

Atomant, would you really have let yourself die to avoid a blood transfusion or did you just want the doctor to be extra careful during the surgery?

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JWs at Rolling Stones Concert!

by Atlantis in

was this done for an advertising stunt?

received this in an email.. ------------------------------------------------.

.. a few days ago in porto alegre there was a rolling stones concert.

TheListener

Nothing screams mass indoctrination and cult like a wall of literature carts at a Rolling Stones concert.