Posts by TheListener

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Maybe I'm Just Ignorant About the New "Anti-Gay" Video

by turtleturtle in

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homophobia (m-w.com):.

: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals.

can someone tell me, specifically, was homophobic about the new "anti-gay" wt video.

TheListener

Please remember I don't agree that homosexuality is a sin and I have taught my kids to respect most people's lifestyles, but in doing so I taught them that other people do view homosexuality as a sin.

FMF, my wife is a dub. She finds homosexuality disgusting. I've had to work hard to counter her influence with our kids. I do not take this subject lightly; not that I was accused of that.

Holding outdated moronic non-biblical or biblical teachings as truth and raising your children to believe them may indeed be moronic but I don't feel it's discrimination.

Isn't defending speech we don't agree with as important as defending speech we do agree with? Isn't the defending of speech/ideas/actions (that are lawful) that we don't agree with the real test of freedom and liberty?

Anyway, those videos suck. My kids watched one or two at my inlaws house and they laughed pretty hard at the cultiness of it all. I caught hell for that,since everything bad is my fault.

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Be careful what you wish for (in case you want to wake up your spouse)

by nevaagain in

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i want to spare you a long post about my background.

because this topic is about something else.a small information is that i knew ttatt before i got married.

but then i somehow pushed it back for quite some time because i didnt want to change my life and it was convenient to instantly meet new people when you move into a new city.couple of years into my marriage and seeing all the changes in the jw my thirst for ttatt resurfaced.

TheListener

Damn DJS you are cold!

Sorry to hear about this Nevaagain. I hope you both get through this with as little stress as possible.

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Maybe I'm Just Ignorant About the New "Anti-Gay" Video

by turtleturtle in

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friends

homophobia (m-w.com):.

: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals.

can someone tell me, specifically, was homophobic about the new "anti-gay" wt video.

TheListener

I do not agree with the video! But, this thread confused me. So I have a question.

Here is my question: IF IF IF IF I believed homosexuality, with or without sex, was against bible teaching would it be discriminatory to teach that to my kids? And if not should I have to use preapproved language vetted by the LGBTQ community?

Does everyone have to believe that homosexuality is ok and teach that to their kids?

Again, I don't agree with the video.

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Our thoughts on the latest JW Broadcast for the month of May

by Christian Gutierrez in

howdy guys!

this is our latest video on the jw broadcast in short form.

we talk about jw marriage challenges.

TheListener

DY your posts seem so out of character. I hope you are doing ok. Your own bio in small part reads "Extremely slowly fading until the right time comes to exit this fear-mongering, dream-selling, highly-controlling religious organization."

All the couple is doing is giving their opinion on all things JW. Nothing wrong with that. For the example you cited about window cleaning perhaps in the halls they went to the elders made it clear that some jobs are more suited for women (I know I have definitely heard elders say similar things).

Let's face it, most of us that have exited have had our share of pain and live with the aftermath. I wouldn't criticize another person's way of coping and sharing. Perhaps one day when you exit the dubs you will more fully understand and be able to be more forgiving.

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I'm getting baptized

by BlackWolf in

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i know i've started similar topics before but this time i'm serious.

my parents have been constantly pressuring me and after yesterday's watchtower study they asked me if i was going to be baptized this summer... and i said yes.

i probably should have thought about it more before making a final decision, but they're pretty much forcing me to do it anyway.

TheListener

You are doing great black wolf. I'm sure this is all super stressful and can tend to take over your whole life. Stay strong and make sure to take some time for yourself and doing some things that you enjoy.

Your tactic with your dad sounds very good. The 'I don't understand' argument drives dubs absolutely insane. They really cannot understand how you can't grasp what they're telling you. It never crisses their mind for a moment that they may actually be wrong. Keep up the good work.

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Inside Prince's Kingdom Hall Memorial Service today

by neat blue dog in

http://m.startribune.com/prince-memorial-fills-jehovah-s-witnesses-hall-in-minnetonka/379592941/.

http://m.etonline.com/news/187330_prince_funeral_private_religious_memorial_service_minnesota/.

TheListener

I liked how one guest politely said "it wasn't too preachy". To me that sounds like a polite way of saying it was preachy and culty.

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I'm getting baptized

by BlackWolf in

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i know i've started similar topics before but this time i'm serious.

my parents have been constantly pressuring me and after yesterday's watchtower study they asked me if i was going to be baptized this summer... and i said yes.

i probably should have thought about it more before making a final decision, but they're pretty much forcing me to do it anyway.

TheListener

Kiddingme, thanks for spending your time posting that. I will read it over and see if I have any worthwhile advice.

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I'm getting baptized

by BlackWolf in

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friends

i know i've started similar topics before but this time i'm serious.

my parents have been constantly pressuring me and after yesterday's watchtower study they asked me if i was going to be baptized this summer... and i said yes.

i probably should have thought about it more before making a final decision, but they're pretty much forcing me to do it anyway.

TheListener

Blackwolf, I have been thinking a lot about your situation. I don't have any additional good advice from the others here but I wanted to say that your situation is exactly what I wanted to avoid with my kids and why when I faded I tried so hard to free them at the same time. I never wanted them to have to live a double life and fear my abandonment.

I wish you the best of luck.

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Helping my family see the truth about 'the truth'

by Stella3 in

this is my first time joining a forum like this.

i grew up in the jw religion.

i was baptized when i was 13 and started to fade out at 16 at least mentally.

TheListener

Stella, there are many good comments and suggestions so far on the thread. I will add one more: visit the Best Of Section of the board. There is a lot of great information there.

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Raising kids in a split faith household

by rathernotsay in

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hi guys, don't know if this is the right place to ask but id like to hear other peoples experiences with raising kids in a household with split faiths.

just for a bit of a back story, my wife and i have been married for comming up 6 years.

we have 3 kids, 2 boys aged 5 and 3 and a 8 week old girl.

TheListener

Volunteering with your kids is fantastic! Also, let them help you as much as possible with donating to charitable organizations. Even young ones can help gather goods/clothes from the house and put it in bags and take it to a shelter or drop off point. Explain how this direct type of help really matters.

I also found that exploiting conscience matter issues or issues where my wife wasn't 100% on sure footing (dub wise) - like going to the YMCA, limited after school sports or county sponsored classes and activities, The dubs aren't against all of those things but they are against the time spent with non-witnesses - which is exactly what you need for your kids. Interaction with regular kids.