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  Predict How JWs Will Accept The New Announcement

  by minimus in

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  will they be disturbed?.

  happy?

  thinking this proves the end is nearer than ever??

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  OTWO, you have it right. It's all about the money.

  Like any business they need to balance how much or how little they can require from the R&F members AND still make the most profit.

  They seem to be tinkering with their formula in order to increase membership and maximize profit. Or they may wish to maintain only a hardcore following of dubs and see how profitable that can be.

  If they can get the same cashflow from a 2 day convention and 2 1-day assemblies they'll increase their profits quite a bit. (keeping in mind that they must maintain mental control over their members so Sunday only worship probably wouldn't work).

  I wouldn't be surprised if at some point they start pushing how good and helpful the tithing system in Israel was. I'd say it would never be mandatory but I can see it being recommended. It could turn into a prestige thing. "I give 8%" or "I give 10%, how about you?" - something like that.
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  Why does BETHEL NOT ALLOW district and circuit overseers to get-together.

  by yesidid in

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  some time ago a district overseer i know decided to have a social gathering of the do and co's.

  after a district convention.

  when bethel found about it, the do was told to, and did cancel it immediately.. i have often wondered why they don't want the do's and co's to socialise.. what do you think?.

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  COs and DOs getting together? That can only spell bad things for the WTS.

  Limited association is, of course, excepted. For instance, several COs attend a District Convention and they can secretly meet each other in the bathroom to discuss spiritual matters.

  Or when a CO and DO visit a host congregation. They are free to fraternize with any who can afford it. Of course, you have to follow the two conflicting lists of special dietary requirements. Which basically means you serve them lobster and filet mignon.

  I once saw a gathering of COs and DOs. It was at a parking lot near a Denny's restaurant. I would swear I heard them talking about disfellowshipping a brother and his family over their poor choice of restaurants.
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  Predict How JWs Will Accept The New Announcement

  by minimus in

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  will they be disturbed?.

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  thinking this proves the end is nearer than ever??

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  TheListener

  Perhaps a year from now they'll announce a new arrangement and a new meeting for Thursday nights (or Tuesdays)?

  You never know what they have up their sleeves.
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  If anyone else is tired of the announcement, bible study change

  by dinah in

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  please sign here............................ why do we even care?.

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  Personally, I wouldn't call an announcement that may cause the cessation of my wife and family leaving me each and every week for a one hour brainwashing session trivial or meaningless.

  A lot of us here don't have many real life people we can talk to that understand our particular situations. The mere fact that many threads have been started and commented upon by others shows how much this forum helps heal individuals.
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  My intruction on JWD. Hi!

  by easyreader1970 in

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  i posted this in my profile but since i've never formally introduced myself, i thought i would print it here as well as my official "hello" message.

  i am currently an active jw.

  i don't want to be but the situation i am in doesn't allow me to do anything differently.

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  TheListener

  Welcome to the board.

  I faded away over the course of several years. It was long and painstaking. My wife and other family members are hardcore believers. I went for a long time and maintained my congregational duties in order to keep friction between myself and family down. I was especially worried that my wife would take our children and leave me.

  I was becoming so unhappy about my situation that it became worth it to fade away fully and take the consequences. I couldn't bear to be miserable any longer and knew I had to be more open to my children about the WTS in order to help them not get sucked into the dubs.

  My wife freaked out. Each fading step I took made her angrier and angrier. At the end when I was completely done and not going to meetings or service - ever again she calmed down and we've had this sort of non-discussed peace agreement. I don't bash her religion and she doesn't bother me about how I feel, and she doesn't rat me out to the elders for anything I do.

  The thought of losing my children crippled my decision making process for a long time. In my case it has worked out and I've maintained my marriage and am able to help influence my children in the life course decisions. Even my wife isn't as zealous anymore and more goes through the motions than anything else.

  Hang in there and keep up hope. In the end you need to remember that you are a human being and you deserve to be happy too. Sometimes we need to learn to be happy even if we're alone. I hope everything works out for you. Posting here may be a real help to you.
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  American Idol and JDubs

  by skeeter1 in

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  so, what is the "inside scoop" on how the society & friends view american idol & such "competition-type" shows.. i am wondering as my ultra jwdub relative turns up a nose to these shows.

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  I know a lot of dubs that love American Idol and have never mentioned being uncomfortable with it.

  It must depend upon someone's conscience.

  I wish American Idol would be bashed from the platform or watchtower. I would love to see the dubs reaction and how all of a sudden they change their minds about something they used to like.
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  Next big announcement: All Circuirt Overseers Sacked!

  by slimboyfat in

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  so what is the ending of the congregation book study really all about?

  surely the biggest winner in this new arrangement is the circuit overseer.

  now he only has to take two meetings during his visit and will only "work" from thursday to sunday.

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  WTWizard,

  I think the idea is not eliminating the hounder-hounder position but giving the hounder-hounder position/authority to a non-paid elder who roams the circuit looking for trouble.

  Title: Circuit Roamer or Circuit Elder
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  Next big announcement: All Circuirt Overseers Sacked!

  by slimboyfat in

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  so what is the ending of the congregation book study really all about?

  surely the biggest winner in this new arrangement is the circuit overseer.

  now he only has to take two meetings during his visit and will only "work" from thursday to sunday.

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  TheListener

  Auld Soul is right. The DCs,CAs and SADs are the money makers. They won't get rid of them.

  They won't need to. The roving elders under the control of the District Overseer will be able to handle parts and pass parts onto those they know. My guess is that nothing would have to change - the dubs wouldn't even miss the Circuit Overseers. The roving elders can get all the green handshakes and dole out the juicy assignments.
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  Next big announcement: All Circuirt Overseers Sacked!

  by slimboyfat in

  1. jw
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  so what is the ending of the congregation book study really all about?

  surely the biggest winner in this new arrangement is the circuit overseer.

  now he only has to take two meetings during his visit and will only "work" from thursday to sunday.

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  TheListener

  I like your speculation Slimboyfat.

  District overseers could manage the oversight of these roving elders similar to the way they manage the Circuit Overseers.
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  huge announcement after the Watchtower study on the 27 of April?

  by Dogpatch in

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  there will be a huge announcement after the watchtower study on the 27 of april.. for what it's worth, this was just sent to me anonymously.. randy.

  www.freeminds.org.

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  TheListener

  An additional free night? I can't imagine the WTS will let that happen.

  I hope so. I'd love to have one more night to spend with my family, but....

  If they actually do roll the bookstudy into the school/service mtg. then they'll do something else on the empty night. I don't see them allowing everyone an extra night off.