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  I finally told my parents

  by nolongerconfused in

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  so as some of you already may know, i have stopped going to meetings for good and have nothing to do with wbts anymore...did not write a letter of disassociation because i dont believe an organization should spiritually execute me for rejecting men's tradition and false doctrine...some of you may recall i spoke to my wife and are in good terms, even though she's still an active jw.

  my parents are both active jw's...when i visited them yesterday, they clearly did not expect me to tell them i had left the "org"...to my huge surprise, after i explained to them i had found ttatt (truth about the truth) and gave compelling evidence of my reasoning, and using the scriptures, they totally sided with me...i was dumbfounded...one of my parents even brought up ray franz and his book coc....i was like wtf??.

  they told me all of these years they never had the guts to say anything about the hypocrisy in this org and they were glad that i as their son was able to step up and believe what is right and what is on the bible...they re-assured their love to me and they were happy i had found happiness in jesus christ and the need to have a personal relationship with him and not through a man made organization.... i totally did not expect this response from my parents...but it just leaves me to think that there are thousands of active jw's out there feeling the same way and don't have the courage to step up to the org...still don't know what they are going to do, but i got the feeling they will do the same eventually and move on from the wbts.... have a great week everyone.

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  TheListener

  Congratulations Nolongerconfused. Truly a happyifying outcome!
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  New Girl

  by excitesinceredetermination in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello to everyone :) i wanted to introduce myself as a newbie.

  i was raised in and i am currently on active status due to most of my family being very much in, but i am so ready to be done and have felt that way for quite some time.

  internally i know this is not the right religion without a doubt.

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  TheListener

  Welcome to the board!

  I agree, the kingdom hall and what small get togethers still happen are not that warm and loving. Not like back in the old days when the witnesses felt really persecuted and hanging together as a small group made you feel special. It was great back then to have a small gathering and take care of one another. All the feeling of specialness and closeness has pretty much vanished from the witnesses. It is all very generic and routine these days. Just my opinion.
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  Blood Issue on Grey's Anatomy Tonight

  by jamiebowers in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  at 9 pm on abc.

  previews in last two videos on this link:.

  http://www.wetpaint.com/greys-anatomy/articles/greys-anatomy-season-9-episode-13-spoilers-7-things-we-learned-from-the-sneak-peeks-video.

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  TheListener

  the girl next door - welcome! I do not think your efforts were in vain. You saved lives, there is nothing about saving a life that isn't important. There are human beings who were given a chance at life because of your efforts.

  Although the blood rules are a bit different now there are still a lot of witnesses, I would even say a majority, that view accepting fractions and pieces and parts as bad as a whole blood transfusion and simply will not do it. I know, I'm married to one.

  Imagine if the arguments and discussions you had with those parents were actually with your spouse about your own children. It's not easy but it is worth it.
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  Governing Body member John O Groh

  by TheListener in

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  can anyone tell the story of john o groh?

  ray and the wts mention him as a society director and member of the early 1970s governing body..

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  TheListener

  Oh ok. I will look it up.
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  Governing Body Secretary at time of Ray Franz

  by TheListener in

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  in his books ray franz mentions the name of the man who was the governing body secretary.

  i believe this person also left the witnesses during the 1980s purge.

  what became of this person?

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  TheListener

  Oh I didn't know. Thanks Blondie. Maybe one day his family or a friend will find some personal notes that he didn't want released until he passed away.
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  Governing Body member John O Groh

  by TheListener in

  1. jw
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  can anyone tell the story of john o groh?

  ray and the wts mention him as a society director and member of the early 1970s governing body..

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  TheListener

  He is one of a couple early GB members that no one really talked about much or mentions today. He was sort of a filler GB member. Perhaps if he had lived into the 1980s he would have been more of a topic of discussion.
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  Governing Body Secretary at time of Ray Franz

  by TheListener in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in his books ray franz mentions the name of the man who was the governing body secretary.

  i believe this person also left the witnesses during the 1980s purge.

  what became of this person?

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  TheListener

  Yes, Jon Mitchell, that's it. I remember his book now. I found the subject interesting and all but I felt that someone with his access behind closed doors should have had some really interesting stories to tell. I wish he would write something else which pulls the curtain back a bit on the GB.
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  Governing Body Secretary at time of Ray Franz

  by TheListener in

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  in his books ray franz mentions the name of the man who was the governing body secretary.

  i believe this person also left the witnesses during the 1980s purge.

  what became of this person?

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  TheListener

  in his books Ray Franz mentions the name of the man who was the Governing Body secretary. I believe this person also left the witnesses during the 1980s purge. What became of this person? Did he keep records that he took with him? Wouldn't he have been able to write a real eye opening account of what went on? It seems that he would have access to all the meeting agendas, minutes and voting subjects and vote counts. Maybe this person did write a book and I just don't know what it is.

  Any information?
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  Governing Body member John O Groh

  by TheListener in

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  2. friends

  can anyone tell the story of john o groh?

  ray and the wts mention him as a society director and member of the early 1970s governing body..

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  TheListener

  Can anyone tell the story of John O Groh? Ray and the WTS mention him as a Society Director and member of the early 1970s Governing Body.
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  New Member-Active Elder

  by Promitheas in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm a new member & i'd like to say hi to everyone, intoducing myself.. i am a 3rd generation born-in at mid 50's & an active elder.. english is not my mother language, so pls ignore any grammatical errors.

  i live in a small country in europe.. i'd like to thank you for all information posted.

  some of them have rally helped me to understand and examine again my beliefs.. last new light concerning f&ds=gb has verified the idea that they are popes in the position op pope.. i still believe in god & in his son jesus christ but not in the gb..

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  TheListener

  Welcome! Glad you found the board and hope it helps you in many ways.