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  Anyone else an Ex Bethel "volunteer"

  by BackseatDevil in

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  i was wondering if there were any other ex-bethelites on here.

  i personally regularly went for temporary work at brooklyn then was assigned to the farm for a year and a half.

  it was... one of the most bizaare experiences of my life.. so i wrote it all down (finally, after some 15 years) so i won't bore anyone on here with the details of the story - because bethel doesn't show up until chapter 15... and for you straight folks, it gets a bit gay in two places... but nothing gross.

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  Backseat - ater reading everyone's posts I am really looking forward to reading your book.

  It seems that we walked the halls of B Building and E Building at the same time.
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  Still in with kids

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  Just wanted to add that if you were a witness and have discovered the TTATT and have been succesful in keeping your kids free then be prepared for your believing spouse to blame everything that goes wrong with your children on the fact that you no longer believe and that the kids are following your example.

  You sort of become the lightning rod for everything that may go wrong in your spouse's life as well as the kids.

  If you know and understand that fact it will hopefully keep you from overreacting when it occurs.

  Keep in mind the very real situations which many of us face. Like after school activities, dances, skirt length, tv shows, worldly friends and on and on and on. Kids are bound to push boundaries and that can put the non witness spouse right in the line of fire.

  I have gotten by so far by remembering that i am doing this for the kids sake not just now but for the restof their lives and that my emotional discomfort is the price I am paying for their freedom.
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  Book: Two Babylons - anyone read it ?

  by *lost* in

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  hi has anyone read this book.

  what did you think ?.

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  A rebuttal book by Ralph Woodrow "The Babylon Connection?" is available on Amazon.

  Ralph Woodrow was a Hislop wannabe and wrote a book called "Babylon Myster Religion" which was in the same line of thought as The Two Babylons. It wasn't until Ralph was questioned by a science teacher and had to back up his data that he realized just how many gross assumptions he made (as well as Hislop). Then he wrote "The Babylon Connection?" to clarify and make right what he could.
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  Civil War Looming in US...

  by chapstick in

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  dhs is preparing for civil war with american citizens.... http://us-mg6.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=1502603183&action=showletter&box=inbox&umid=2_0_0_1_1900580_ao7shkgaacosuww6lq3ylgn3j0e#mail.

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  Or we're not all as selfish and heartless as some would like to think.
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  Still in with kids

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  From my own experience with my kids (and a JW wife). Non-JW activities and friends. plus talk about unconditional love (and mean it) and teach them how to think for themselves. One way I did that was to discuss some of the commercials especially aimed at kids and to briefly talk to them about how one-sided they are. I even bought a few items that I knew would be duds but the kids just couldn't see through the commericals - they did once they tried to use the things. I also explained that people that have all the answers - don't.

  I wish you the best of luck. It can be so stressful at times. I'm glad your husband isn't real active right now. But, please be ready for him to swing back n forth like a pendulum.
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  NEW BLOOD CARD DIRECTIVE...

  by SkyGreen in

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  the husband just gave me the new march km (im using it folded up as a coaster at the moment) and a new "blood card" to complete, along with a copy of a set of instructions for how to fill it out and a letter from wts to every baptised publisher.

  i said to him "i wont be needing that" and gave it back to him, and he just said, well just throw it out then - no overreaction yay :o) without telling him, about a month ago, (i tore up my existing no blood directive.

  our kids have never carried around "identity cards" we were never that diligent about it).

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  I remember feeling oh so gulty about shredding mine and oh so free once it was done. What a crock!
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  Vulcan--2013,May,Our Kingdom Ministry/

  by Atlantis in

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  2013, may, our kingdom ministry.link by the blue box and blue arrow.http://www.sendspace.com/file/dzezcj.click on slow download.http://www.fileswap.com/dl/snvol4en1s/.click the green download button.http://www.fileflyer.com/view/hm53dcp..vulcan.

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  Elders in a lot of congregations will have a brief conversation with any brother about to turn 18 to make sure they register. It's more of a friendly remidner than some sort of heavy handed discussion.
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  Friends are studying with the JW's

  by LouBelle in

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  i was studying spanish a little while ago - had to stop because of finances but became friends with the spanish teacher and we keep in touch, see each other now and again.

  i just got a message from him:.

  "hola louise, i would like to talk to you about 2 things, about the jws, as we are following this fatih, we find it interesting, we haven't been baptised yet, i want to make sure before making a mistake and the other thing that allan and i wold like to talk about is starting your own business.....".

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  Lou Belle,

  My suggestion is that you be honest, kind and calm. Perhaps commending your friends on their desire to learn more about God (even if you don't necessarily agree).

  I have found that respectfully discussing the witness beliefs with non-believers or potential believers works better than being emotionally charged and upset.

  Good luck.
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  Hello

  by newdawnfades in

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  i am a long time lurker who has finally decided to post.

  i am still in along with my wife, kids and extended family.

  i am in my 40s and was raised in the org.

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  Welcome NewDawnFades. I wish you well on your journey.
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  A question for those that have been around this board for a long time

  by JeffT in

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  my wife and i stopped going to meetings in 1988 and da'd in 1989. for a few years we both actively participated in the xjw world, she quit doing that a long time ago, and has pretty much completely moved on.

  the other night i told her about my planned blog (which will probably launch this weekend) it will mostly be about my writing, a lot of which is mostly about jw related issues.

  she asked why i am still so drawn to this subject.

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  TheListener

  For me, I can't stand how the WTS changes their teachings and the new ones seem to never know what was taught as "truth" before. The more of us that post online and do blogs and anything else that exposes the WTS for what it truly is can only be a positive thing.

  By posting here I can keep current with what my wife and family are hearing at the meetings and share my knowledge of growing up as a witness and serving in various positions with others.

  It feels good to use the useless witness knowledge I have to help others; and to be a small part of dismanting the WTS.