this interview was posted april 16, 2015 on youtube.
lorenz reibling's replies to the reporter in argentina are in english.. lorenz reibling is intimately connected to the watchtower society and, according to some sources, is a jw himself.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3ssa-9yvii.
so who is lorenz reibling?
Is it possible that the JW interest in blood management is a byproduct of their blood ban and not the other way around? It sounds much less sinister if they're investing and funding research to help their members versus creating religious dogma for profit.
Is it possible to find the timelines to see which came first, investments or blood ban?
i would think that a lot of resentment is building up for these for these guys at bethel even though it may not be discussed openly for fear of being abused by the gb in some way.. any way looking at their personality and the extreme phoniness of rubber mouth/face lett, and am#3, and the chicken shit coward leosch who won't even show up in court when subpoena'd to defend his faith or policies, and i'm sure they have many more undesirable traits that repel people instead of attract and that has to work its toll on relationships they have at bethel.. and this shunning thing i'm sure must really erk some at god's house and while they may not be free to voice their discontent i feel it must be building because these guys are complete nincompoops when it come to reality and the only way they know how to give direction is with fear and guilt which i'm sure is rubbing a lot of people the wrong way.. and let not forget the issues that are raise when they stole all the congregations savings and the pledge drive for more cash, ban on higher education, lawsuit pay out and etc.... what is this doing to the relation ship they have with legal and accounting i see trouble brewing right thier in the spiritual pair of dice..
i want as many minds put into this as possible.. there is a new argument among the extreme jw apologists, saying that even the disciples promoted mistakes.
they base themselves on john 21:23. keep in mind, i am not a believer but i want the answer from a believer's standpoint, please.. .
nwt:.
we're breaking up the regional convention event by going each of the days to a different weekend session.. the tsongas center lowell ma was a bit hard to find, we got lost and got there after the first song and prayer (just in time for the first talk)!
we ran into so many from our home congregation who aren't even assigned to this rc!.
i think it's quite common for publishers now to break up the convention weekend and attend at times when their congregation isn't assigned.. some families (3) were attending this particular convention so as to meet up with family members who are in another part of the region.
i was wondering if anyone had an audio recording of a woman, preferably a minor being asked the intimate details of a fornication jc.
that would hit the fan hard.
in the early 1990s, i was in a meeting.
we were making some major changes to the main it system of the company i worked for.
during the meeting i said, 'what would happen if one of our major customers went belly up and shouldn't we build something into the system to cope with this?'.
I wonder how the rank and file would respond to a split or coup?
I guess it depends on who the elder sheeple would follow; the circuit overseers that they see and know - but don't know as well as they could because they've been rotated for decades so there is only so much closeness that can exist OR the GB in Brooklyn.
Perhaps, which may be the point of previous posters, the GBs response to a feeling of losing control and sheeple apathy has been to become more visible and therefore more able to withstand a coup?
In times past most rank and file barely knew the names of the GB and a DO or CO or even a local elder body could get a little rogue before someone above stepped in to handle it. Now? The GB are ever present and I don't think a lower level management type could go very rogue without the sheeple questioning and wanting to know how the GB feels about it.
It would be so fun to watch from the sidelines though.
so yesterday was a lovely day where i live and so instead of going to the meeting we went, as a family, out for the late pm/early evening to have a bbq.
we were far more relaxed than if we had gone to the meeting.
we spent far more time talking that if we had gone to the meeting.
good job Konceptual. I followed a similar path. I was able to free my children but not my wife. At some point in the fade you may have to get a bit more fadey and let the kids know, in some way maybe without verbally saying it, that it's ok if they don't want to go and you'll support them regardless.
Best of luck.
what do you think the reaction would be?
i would say a small portion (single digit) would walk.
no loss for the borg, they weren't donating anyway.
What they would probably do is end shunning and then once everyone outs themselves reinstate shunning.
Then they would clear themselves of the non-donating deadwood fence-sitters in their opinion.
after all, "at this time,over 13,000 kingdom hall projects and 35 assembly hall projects are needed worldwide.".
hmmm, not too sure about that but all the recent re-branding seems to be heading .
could this be the long game?
The new system came invisibly....why don't you feel better?
It's a cult!
i've been lurking here for a while now, and i guess you could call me a fader.
i don't have hate in my heart for the organization that i spent most of my life in, but i have had an awakening.
luckily, so has my wife, and that way i don't feel so alone.
