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  Something fishy

  by I Faded Twice in

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  ok so just thinking it over here.

  in the recent montana lawsuit wt had to show their net worth.

  it came in at like 1.6 billion i think.

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  You may be right about them hiding the money OrphanCrow.

  When I was in I viewed all the leaders as sincere believers and since I've been out it is really hard to shake that feeling. I have a hard time getting myself to understand that there are shrewd businessmen at the helm of the organization and that they are not all true believers.

  I guess I always sort of thought of the witnesses as a religion that went wrong and kept going wrong. I need to start thinking of it as less a religion and more of a business with lawyers and bankers and stuff. they have done a good job of hiding that part of the religion or business from the rank and file.
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  Is attendance down in your location too?

  by StarryNight9 in

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  2. friends

  i was commenting on another thread about how local kh attendance is down.

  memorial attendance was also way down and the circuit assembly had hundreds less people than what is typical.

  my jw family has even mentioned it.

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  Wife's congregation is much smaller than it used to be. She even told me that the hall feels empty now. It's not empty but definitely less in attendance. I should drive by to check the parking lot during a meeting.

  I've got relatives from the Midwest that told my wife, not me of course, that their meeting attendance has gone down a lot in the past few years. They're older and concerned their hall will be sold and they'll have to travel a lot farther.

  I've heard a lot more witnesses are using the call in option and listening to the meeting. Probably depends on congregation.
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  2018/19 new light

  by Ray Frankz in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi guys, long time without paying a visit to this site.

  today i returned to check a 'gossip' that is running around in brazilian exjw forums.. they are stating that is almost certain they will make a big change in their doctrine maybe this year yet in the annual meeting.

  they say people in warwick were commenting on this.

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  I think they'd get more recruits if they let everyone parktake. The memorial is odd enough as it is but let everyone parktake and at least it seems a bit more normal.

  I hope they DO NOT make this change. I would hate for any other people to be fooled by them.
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  Mike and Kim updated thier Numbers and it looks like the Borg is watching.

  by Crazyguy in

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  2. scandals

  thier latest video they seemed to fix thier number issues and have made it look as though the borg only has about a half a million member now in the us.

  also it looks as though the borg is watching because the borg has now made an adjustment on their website concerning their missing kh.

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  Great thread. Thanks
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  Sarah Huckabee Sanders Kicked Out Of Restaurant For Supporting Trump

  by minimus in

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  i think it’s ridiculous to kick people and families out of a restaurant because of politics.

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  I don't like Sarah
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  Roll Call for the benefit of Newbies and Lurkers. In One Sentence tell why you left the Org.

  by Wasanelder Once in

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  roll call for the benefit of newbies and lurkers.

  in one sentence tell why you left the org.

  not 2 sentences.

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  Lots that was already mentioned but the 607 date issue really opened my eyes to their dishonesty.
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  Self indulgent attention whore thread....

  by _Morpheus in

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  today is my birthday :) in happy to be able to say that guilt free!

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  Happy birthday
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  A Little Direction Please

  by Brian J in

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  2. relationships

  i'm an active elder, cobe, just got home from the meeting where i handled the treasures part and concluded by announcing a friend of mine has been d/f,.....blah blah blah...and over the last year have woken up.

  i simply cannot spill my guts to my wife and children as it would be family suicide.

  i have zero desire to bash, spread my feelings, or become an "apostate".

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  Good luck guys. I'm glad you posted here because there is so much support.

  I stepped aside, my wife is still in but all my kids are free.
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  An unusual question

  by no-zombie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have an unusual question.. and it is ... who actually owns and runs this site?.

  with no ads ... how does it keep going?.

  no-zombie.

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  I also do not use ad blocking on the site and click on them once in awhile to help the site.
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  Being a jobo. It's not the same as it was.

  by punkofnice in

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  2. beliefs

  i've been hearing this from what i'd call 'dyed in the wool' type jobos.. 'it's not the same as it was a few years ago.....'.

  i believe from what comes back to me via my spies -.

  the dyed in the woolers are referring to how the gb are now blatantly pontificating threateningly it seems, about wanting money even from children, all the time.

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  I don't post much these days and I don't hear much about the dubs either. But, my wife's relatives were in town last weekend and I overheard a few conversations they had. They really don't say anything too bad in front of me so if it's negative I probably overheard it from another room.

  The relatives are in their 80s.

  They love the cart witnessing because it's easy. Don't like that no one stops to talk and they can't discuss bible verses with householders. They really don't like that the young pioneers are doing cart work when they feel they need the cart work because they can't get around as well as they used to. In their mind young ones should be doing door to door and older ones should be doing cart work.

  Frustrated by the technology that the society has them using. They like the idea of the technology and how modern and fresh it all feels (their words) but don't really understand how to use it and keep running out of memory and losing files. They said that half their congregation has to rely on one younger brother to keep helping them with their ipads and phones.

  They love the videos that are shown at the conventions but really miss the live action dramas with the costumes and overacting.

  The comment that stood out to me was when one of them said that the society just doesn't feel the same, oh it's great and everything is perfect but it's so different now.

  Not related but several congregations in their area were consolidated recently and they are happy to have their KH filled with some more people, apparently the attendance was really low before the merge.

  I also heard that there was some congregation shuffling and merging in my area too.