this is an interesting read.
recently, in my same small city, chiliwack, b.c.
a court case was thrown out re a woman who died from complications during birth.
Sry I dont know why that posted so many times, my computer lagged real bad then did some funy things...I guess.
If anyone knows how to dellets posts plz let me know. Or if an admin sees this please I only meant for one post not four, If you could dellete the extra ones that would be great.
this is an interesting read.
recently, in my same small city, chiliwack, b.c.
a court case was thrown out re a woman who died from complications during birth.
Sabrina you are right and the reason witnesses stay away from blood is scriptures. I stongly reject the idea that jws are advocating the death of more people bye blood. They are not murdering anyone because of there stand on blood.
Acts 15:28.29 I wont quote scriptures you've probably had your fair share of that lol. But here it puts blood with fornication and things sacrificed to idols and so on.
Genesis 9:3,4 no blood
leviticus 17:13-16 bled animal fleash but no blood.
Okay so no blood is simple in the scriptures. so the only claim is that it is an unjust death? Why should we have to die because of no blood when we could keep living....in satans system.
Well its important to show Jehovah you have no love for this world, and want nothing to do with it. If your not ready or prepared to do this dont become a jehovahs witness. Number 2 often being a witness is referred to as being in war, theres war all around us. Eph 6 gives a good account of the suit of armor and how this armor is comrised of faith and righteousness and so on. If we need this armor isnt it safe to say we will do battle? If I die in a Nazi Concentration camp...is it any different from dying on a hospital bed? You say no to the nazis you face the fear of death, you say no to the doctors and you face the fear of death. Are Jehovah's witnesses suppose to fear death? I think true Witnesses fear only one thing....Jehovah. It is this fear of his holy judgement that moves us to deny blood....to show no fear in the face of death, yes that would be the only way to prove a witness for jehovah. I for one dont see anything in satans world worth hanging onto.
Why do we try to run away from genesis 3:19 ""For dust you are, and to dust you will return."
Ecclesiates 9:11 says time and unforseen occurrences befall us all. such is also true in the medical world we have to be prepared for what could happen. If you think that being a Jehovahs Witness means your gonna live to be old, thats not the case.
Look at proverbs 16:17 One who is safegaurding hiw way is keeping his soul. Soul can be rendered to mean blood or life.
You can also look at this as to keep your blood to yourself. He is not sharing his soul is he?
At john 17:3 jesus says this means everlasting live. Can the doctor give you everlating live? No infact blood transfusions kill elderly faster then regular adults.
Ecc 3:2 there is a time to die. We all have to face this reality of life.
2 Tim 3:1,2 i think. It says that the last days will be hard to deal with. This includes staring death in the face. Having some professional tell you something he read in a book, the same way as what u believe..it was written in a book. But the question is. What book do you want to follow?
I have to go back for more heat surgery...I face this blood issue today as we speak. Am i going to hinder.....cower at the thought of death no, I told my doctor that if he didnt trust himself to do the surgery without blood I will find a doctor more confident in his skills.
I would like to live, I am going to go thru everything possible to try and get this surgery done without blood. Which will be easy cuz its not major major....just a young doc scared to take a chance.
Doctors use blood as a safegaurd. Mal practice claims against the government could rise well into the billions of dollars if doctors did not use blood to save there arses. Most cases where blood is needed in surgery is because the doctor made a mistake....which is fine there human. But the victims of these cases would no doubt sue the government for alot of money. So they use there cash to fund blood because its acts like a safty net. This is only seen in North America where we have the money to pour into a system like this. This issue dosnt exist in other countries because in other countries to cant sue your government claiming them responsible for anything. So we seee doctors trying to copy what we do over here all though we do what we do over here only to save money. And in the process of them trying to copy us, they result in doing more harm then good. So do we justify what is going on in third world countrys because it adds to our "finacial security" or our "physical security" the feeling that we can walk across the street alittle safer.
The red cross is a good organization of course, they do what they can knowing what they know. But I do not agree with 91 percent, I will look into it in more detail, but im sure that number includes what they payed out for there saleries and so on. I think 9 percent of the funds cant be accounted for. I could be wrong, when I have more time I will look into it.
this is an interesting read.
recently, in my same small city, chiliwack, b.c.
a court case was thrown out re a woman who died from complications during birth.
Sabrina you are right and the reason witnesses stay away from blood is scriptures. I stongly reject the idea that jws are advocating the death of more people bye blood. They are not murdering anyone because of there stand on blood.
Acts 15:28.29 I wont quote scriptures you've probably had your fair share of that lol. But here it puts blood with fornication and things sacrificed to idols and so on.
Genesis 9:3,4 no blood
leviticus 17:13-16 bled animal fleash but no blood.
Okay so no blood is simple in the scriptures. so the only claim is that it is an unjust death? Why should we have to die because of no blood when we could keep living....in satans system.
Well its important to show Jehovah you have no love for this world, and want nothing to do with it. If your not ready or prepared to do this dont become a jehovahs witness. Number 2 often being a witness is referred to as being in war, theres war all around us. Eph 6 gives a good account of the suit of armor and how this armor is comrised of faith and righteousness and so on. If we need this armor isnt it safe to say we will do battle? If I die in a Nazi Concentration camp...is it any different from dying on a hospital bed? You say no to the nazis you face the fear of death, you say no to the doctors and you face the fear of death. Are Jehovah's witnesses suppose to fear death? I think true Witnesses fear only one thing....Jehovah. It is this fear of his holy judgement that moves us to deny blood....to show no fear in the face of death, yes that would be the only way to prove a witness for jehovah. I for one dont see anything in satans world worth hanging onto.
Why do we try to run away from genesis 3:19 ""For dust you are, and to dust you will return."
Ecclesiates 9:11 says time and unforseen occurrences befall us all. such is also true in the medical world we have to be prepared for what could happen. If you think that being a Jehovahs Witness means your gonna live to be old, thats not the case.
Look at proverbs 16:17 One who is safegaurding hiw way is keeping his soul. Soul can be rendered to mean blood or life.
You can also look at this as to keep your blood to yourself. He is not sharing his soul is he?
At john 17:3 jesus says this means everlasting live. Can the doctor give you everlating live? No infact blood transfusions kill elderly faster then regular adults.
Ecc 3:2 there is a time to die. We all have to face this reality of life.
2 Tim 3:1,2 i think. It says that the last days will be hard to deal with. This includes staring death in the face. Having some professional tell you something he read in a book, the same way as what u believe..it was written in a book. But the question is. What book do you want to follow?
I have to go back for more heat surgery...I face this blood issue today as we speak. Am i going to hinder.....cower at the thought of death no, I told my doctor that if he didnt trust himself to do the surgery without blood I will find a doctor more confident in his skills.
I would like to live, I am going to go thru everything possible to try and get this surgery done without blood. Which will be easy cuz its not major major....just a young doc scared to take a chance.
Doctors use blood as a safegaurd. Mal practice claims against the government could rise well into the billions of dollars if doctors did not use blood to save there arses. Most cases where blood is needed in surgery is because the doctor made a mistake....which is fine there human. But the victims of these cases would no doubt sue the government for alot of money. So they use there cash to fund blood because its acts like a safty net. This is only seen in North America where we have the money to pour into a system like this. This issue dosnt exist in other countries because in other countries to cant sue your government claiming them responsible for anything. So we seee doctors trying to copy what we do over here all though we do what we do over here only to save money. And in the process of them trying to copy us, they result in doing more harm then good. So do we justify what is going on in third world countrys because it adds to our "finacial security" or our "physical security" the feeling that we can walk across the street alittle safer.
The red cross is a good organization of course, they do what they can knowing what they know. But I do not agree with 91 percent, I will look into it in more detail, but im sure that number includes what they payed out for there saleries and so on. I think 9 percent of the funds cant be accounted for. I could be wrong, when I have more time I will look into it. And
this is an interesting read.
recently, in my same small city, chiliwack, b.c.
a court case was thrown out re a woman who died from complications during birth.
Sabrina you are right and the reason witnesses stay away from blood is scriptures. I stongly reject the idea that jws are advocating the death of more people bye blood. They are not murdering anyone because of there stand on blood.
Acts 15:28.29 I wont quote scriptures you've probably had your fair share of that lol. But here it puts blood with fornication and things sacrificed to idols and so on.
Genesis 9:3,4 no blood
leviticus 17:13-16 bled animal fleash but no blood.
Okay so no blood is simple in the scriptures. so the only claim is that it is an unjust death? Why should we have to die because of no blood when we could keep living....in satans system.
Well its important to show Jehovah you have no love for this world, and want nothing to do with it. If your not ready or prepared to do this dont become a jehovahs witness. Number 2 often being a witness is referred to as being in war, theres war all around us. Eph 6 gives a good account of the suit of armor and how this armor is comrised of faith and righteousness and so on. If we need this armor isnt it safe to say we will do battle? If I die in a Nazi Concentration camp...is it any different from dying on a hospital bed? You say no to the nazis you face the fear of death, you say no to the doctors and you face the fear of death. Are Jehovah's witnesses suppose to fear death? I think true Witnesses fear only one thing....Jehovah. It is this fear of his holy judgement that moves us to deny blood....to show no fear in the face of death, yes that would be the only way to prove a witness for jehovah. I for one dont see anything in satans world worth hanging onto.
Why do we try to run away from genesis 3:19 ""For dust you are, and to dust you will return."
Ecclesiates 9:11 says time and unforseen occurrences befall us all. such is also true in the medical world we have to be prepared for what could happen. If you think that being a Jehovahs Witness means your gonna live to be old, thats not the case.
Look at proverbs 16:17 One who is safegaurding hiw way is keeping his soul. Soul can be rendered to mean blood or life.
You can also look at this as to keep your blood to yourself. He is not sharing his soul is he?
At john 17:3 jesus says this means everlasting live. Can the doctor give you everlating live? No infact blood transfusions kill elderly faster then regular adults.
Ecc 3:2 there is a time to die. We all have to face this reality of life.
2 Tim 3:1,2 i think. It says that the last days will be hard to deal with. This includes staring death in the face. Having some professional tell you something he read in a book, the same way as what u believe..it was written in a book. But the question is. What book do you want to follow?
I have to go back for more heat surgery...I face this blood issue today as we speak. Am i going to hinder.....cower at the thought of death no, I told my doctor that if he didnt trust himself to do the surgery without blood I will find a doctor more confident in his skills.
I would like to live, I am going to go thru everything possible to try and get this surgery done without blood. Which will be easy cuz its not major major....just a young doc scared to take a chance.
Doctors use blood as a safegaurd. Mal practice claims against the government could rise well into the billions of dollars if doctors did not use blood to save there arses. Most cases where blood is needed in surgery is because the doctor made a mistake....which is fine there human. But the victims of these cases would no doubt sue the government for alot of money. So they use there cash to fund blood because its acts like a safty net. This is only seen in North America where we have the money to pour into a system like this. This issue dosnt exist in other countries because in other countries to cant sue your government claiming them responsible for anything. So we seee doctors trying to copy what we do over here all though we do what we do over here only to save money. And in the process of them trying to copy us, they result in doing more harm then good. So do we justify what is going on in third world countrys because it adds to our "finacial security" or our "physical security" the feeling that we can walk across the street alittle safer.
The red cross is a good organization of course, they do what they can knowing what they know. But I do not agree with 91 percent, I will look into it in more detail, but im sure that number includes what they payed out for there saleries and so on. I think 9 percent of the funds cant be accounted for. I could be wrong, when I have more time I will look into it. And I
this is an interesting read.
recently, in my same small city, chiliwack, b.c.
a court case was thrown out re a woman who died from complications during birth.
Sabrina you are right and the reason witnesses stay away from blood is scriptures. I stongly reject the idea that jws are advocating the death of more people bye blood. They are not murdering anyone because of there stand on blood.
Acts 15:28.29 I wont quote scriptures you've probably had your fair share of that lol. But here it puts blood with fornication and things sacrificed to idols and so on.
Genesis 9:3,4 no blood
leviticus 17:13-16 bled animal fleash but no blood.
Okay so no blood is simple in the scriptures. so the only claim is that it is an unjust death? Why should we have to die because of no blood when we could keep living....in satans system.
Well its important to show Jehovah you have no love for this world, and want nothing to do with it. If your not ready or prepared to do this dont become a jehovahs witness. Number 2 often being a witness is referred to as being in war, theres war all around us. Eph 6 gives a good account of the suit of armor and how this armor is comrised of faith and righteousness and so on. If we need this armor isnt it safe to say we will do battle? If I die in a Nazi Concentration camp...is it any different from dying on a hospital bed? You say no to the nazis you face the fear of death, you say no to the doctors and you face the fear of death. Are Jehovah's witnesses suppose to fear death? I think true Witnesses fear only one thing....Jehovah. It is this fear of his holy judgement that moves us to deny blood....to show no fear in the face of death, yes that would be the only way to prove a witness for jehovah. I for one dont see anything in satans world worth hanging onto.
Why do we try to run away from genesis 3:19 ""For dust you are, and to dust you will return."
Ecclesiates 9:11 says time and unforseen occurrences befall us all. such is also true in the medical world we have to be prepared for what could happen. If you think that being a Jehovahs Witness means your gonna live to be old, thats not the case.
Look at proverbs 16:17 One who is safegaurding hiw way is keeping his soul. Soul can be rendered to mean blood or life.
You can also look at this as to keep your blood to yourself. He is not sharing his soul is he?
At john 17:3 jesus says this means everlasting live. Can the doctor give you everlating live? No infact blood transfusions kill elderly faster then regular adults.
Ecc 3:2 there is a time to die. We all have to face this reality of life.
2 Tim 3:1,2 i think. It says that the last days will be hard to deal with. This includes staring death in the face. Having some professional tell you something he read in a book, the same way as what u believe..it was written in a book. But the question is. What book do you want to follow?
I have to go back for more heat surgery...I face this blood issue today as we speak. Am i going to hinder.....cower at the thought of death no, I told my doctor that if he didnt trust himself to do the surgery without blood I will find a doctor more confident in his skills.
I would like to live, I am going to go thru everything possible to try and get this surgery done without blood. Which will be easy cuz its not major major....just a young doc scared to take a chance.
Doctors use blood as a safegaurd. Mal practice claims against the government could rise well into the billions of dollars if doctors did not use blood to save there arses. Most cases where blood is needed in surgery is because the doctor made a mistake....which is fine there human. But the victims of these cases would no doubt sue the government for alot of money. So they use there cash to fund blood because its acts like a safty net. This is only seen in North America where we have the money to pour into a system like this. This issue dosnt exist in other countries because in other countries to cant sue your government claiming them responsible for anything. So we seee doctors trying to copy what we do over here all though we do what we do over here only to save money. And in the process of them trying to copy us, they result in doing more harm then good. So do we justify what is going on in third world countrys because it adds to our "finacial security" or our "physical security" the feeling that we can walk across the street alittle safer.
The red cross is a good organization of course, they do what they can knowing what they know. But I do not agree with 91 percent, I will look into it in more detail, but im sure that number includes what they payed out for there saleries and so on. I think 9 percent of the funds cant be accounted for. I could be wrong, when I have more time I will look into it. And I will
this is an interesting read.
recently, in my same small city, chiliwack, b.c.
a court case was thrown out re a woman who died from complications during birth.
Objectives To prospectively define the incidence of anemia and use of red blood cell (RBC) transfusions in critically ill patients and to explore the potential benefits and risks associated with transfusion in the ICU.
Design Prospective observational study conducted November 1999, with 2 components: a blood sampling study and an anemia and blood transfusion study.
Setting and Patients The blood sampling study included 1136 patients from 145 western European ICUs, and the anemia and blood transfusion study included 3534 patients from 146 western European ICUs. Patients were followed up for 28 days or until hospital discharge, interinstitutional transfer, or death.
Main Outcome Measures Frequency of blood drawing and associated volume of blood drawn, collected over a 24-hour period; hemoglobin levels, transfusion rate, organ dysfunction (assessed using the Sequential Organ Failure Assessment score), and mortality, collected throughout a 2-week period.
Results The mean (SD) volume per blood draw was 10.3 (6.6) mL, with an average total volume of 41.1 (39.7) mL during the 24-hour period. There was a positive correlation between organ dysfunction and the number of blood draws (r = 0.34; P<.001) and total volume drawn (r = 0.28; P<.001). The mean hemoglobin concentration at ICU admission was 11.3 (2.3) g/dL, with 29% (963/3295) having a concentration of less than 10 g/dL. The transfusion rate during the ICU period was 37.0% (1307/3534). Older patients and those with a longer ICU length of stay were more commonly transfused. Both ICU and overall mortality rates were significantly higher in patients who had vs had not received a transfusion (ICU rates: 18.5% vs 10.1%, respectively; P<.001; overall rates: 29.0% vs 14.9%, respectively; P<.001). For similar degrees of organ dysfunction, patients who had a transfusion had a higher mortality rate. For matched patients in the propensity analysis, the 28-day mortality was 22.7% among patients with transfusions and 17.1% among those without (P = .02); the Kaplan-Meier log-rank test confirmed this difference.
Conclusions This multicenter observational study reveals the common occurrence of anemia and the large use of blood transfusion in critically ill patients. Additionally, this epidemiologic study provides evidence of an association between transfusions and diminished organ function as well as between transfusions and mortality.
so blood kills anemia patience faster. This according to your book. I will find more I swear it.
this is an interesting read.
recently, in my same small city, chiliwack, b.c.
a court case was thrown out re a woman who died from complications during birth.
this is scary, they cant detect WNV in current blood screening methods.
WNV can be effectively transmitted through blood transfusions. The burden of WNV blood transfusion related disease is probably underestimated owing to the low rate of symptomatic disease among recipients and the difficulty in establishing blood transfusion as the source of WNV infection.
8 The presence of infectious WNV in donated blood necessitates the application of viral detection testing such as NAT. Additional studies are needed to define the sensitivity of current NAT assays, their ability to detect low-level viremic donations, and their costeffectiveness. This would allow optimization of testing protocols.
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/westnile/resources/MacedoeaTransfusion2004.pdf
full article
I will find statistics on the internet to find out how many die from blood complications. You you try to find that number you will find it very hard to find. I bet everyday 1 person dies in every hospital because of blood, They go public to say how many people are saved bacuse of blood transfusions when in reality there saying how many people recieved blood transfusions and a large percent of that number, they didnt even have to use blood.
DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY IS IN BLOOD???????????????????????????????? IM GONNA DO MORE RESEARCH WHEN I GET HOME FROM WORK, IF YOUR A DECENT PERSON THIS SHOULD MAKE YOU SICK.
remember 5 to 10 percent of hiv have it cuz of blood, THATS ALOT OF DEAD PEOPLE. But then again act like it dosnt matter. Wait for more and more viruses to come out that will past the screening test, for every virus they have to upgrade every blood bank in the world. Alot more people are gonna die if people keep advertising get blood/ give blood. You know the gov pays alot for blood, the red cross make major major major dough off blood. Only a fraction gets back into the third world. say what you say do as you wish but when i get back from work im gonna post some stuff on here about blood....alll sides of it. Then you can say what you want.
And doctors do not use blood in life threatening situations, They use blood as a standard in most major surgerys.
Oh and I appologize for my rude comments and language, Im not here to turn any of you back so i used it as an excuse to say whatever. But I shouldnt have been like that. Anyway off to work.
this is an interesting read.
recently, in my same small city, chiliwack, b.c.
a court case was thrown out re a woman who died from complications during birth.
"Between 5 and 10% of new HIV infections worldwide are
transmitted through unsafe blood transfusions, with a
further 5% through unsafe medical injections. Increasing
evidence shows that targeted interventions to achieve
infection control through blood safety and injection safety
are successful and highly cost-effective."
That came out of a officail WHO document.
this is an interesting read.
recently, in my same small city, chiliwack, b.c.
a court case was thrown out re a woman who died from complications during birth.
I know of a witness who had a surgery done when whe was 16, they fought and fought for no blood but the father prevailed in getting a court order and she got blood
have lost a friend, and I know that her rejecting blood and fighting it even physically right to the end builds my faith...I know she will be around in the new system. All you guys use blood for is an excuse to attack the witnesses. ONLY BECAUSE THEY REFUSE TO HAVE YOU BE A MEMBER!!!!!!!!!!
this is an interesting read.
recently, in my same small city, chiliwack, b.c.
a court case was thrown out re a woman who died from complications during birth.
How about this quote?? im gonna find alot more and post them.
I hate to burst your stupid little bubble but WAY WAY WAY WAY more people die because of blood transfusions then from not having blood transfusions. You people are very ignorant to the real world, You act like good people and show a serious genuine feeling towards people loosing there lives. But your still too stupid to realize that it saves more then it kills...and if it kills theres hope for you in the ressurection. You faithless spineless worms.
"There is increased awareness that a number of diseases (such as AIDS, syphilis, hepatitis B and hepatitis C and others) can be passed from the donor to recipient. This has led to strict human blood transfusion standards in developed countries. Standards include screening for potential risk factors and health problems including determining donor haemoglobin level, and answering a set of standard oral and written questions, as well as testing donated units for these infections. The lack of such standards in places like rural China, where desperate villagers donated plasma for money and had others' red blood cells reinjected, has produced entire villages infected with the AIDS virus."
