Posts by MySuperSecret

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jw takes blood over plasma in b.c.

by orbison11 in

this is an interesting read.

recently, in my same small city, chiliwack, b.c.

a court case was thrown out re a woman who died from complications during birth.

MySuperSecret

How about this quote?? im gonna find alot more and post them.

I hate to burst your stupid little bubble but WAY WAY WAY WAY more people die because of blood transfusions then from not having blood transfusions. You people are very ignorant to the real world, You act like good people and show a serious genuine feeling towards people loosing there lives. But your still too stupid to realize that it saves more then it kills...and if it kills theres hope for you in the ressurection. You faithless spineless worms.

"There is increased awareness that a number of diseases (such as AIDS, syphilis, hepatitis B and hepatitis C and others) can be passed from the donor to recipient. This has led to strict human blood transfusion standards in developed countries. Standards include screening for potential risk factors and health problems including determining donor haemoglobin level, and answering a set of standard oral and written questions, as well as testing donated units for these infections. The lack of such standards in places like rural China, where desperate villagers donated plasma for money and had others' red blood cells reinjected, has produced entire villages infected with the AIDS virus."

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Can JWs EAT Blood?

by Marvin Shilmer in

can jws eat blood?

scenario: .

a jw is bleeding.

MySuperSecret

No Blood in surgery results in saving more lives then not. People die from complications from blood transfusion more then they like to admit. FAR more people die because of blood transfusions then will ever die because of NOT having blood tansfusions. As for those children, well thankfully there getting ressurected.

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jw takes blood over plasma in b.c.

by orbison11 in

this is an interesting read.

recently, in my same small city, chiliwack, b.c.

a court case was thrown out re a woman who died from complications during birth.

MySuperSecret

When I wasa four I was in Torontos children hospital awaiting heart surgery.Of course it was suppose to be no blood

24 hrs before the sugery the doctors said they were gonna use blood if they felt the need to use it (this was in 1988)

They went so far as to rush a court order so I couldnt be taken out of the hospital, my dad went into the hospital grabbed me and left the country..hours before they got the court order.

Once we were in the states we found a doctor in buffalo and we did the surgery, no problems blood free.

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a36028bf102cf.htm

I had gotten that surgery in toronto I would have had HIV. Thankfully I dont.

No blood is a choice best left to the individual, but no matter what happens you unfortunatly must live with the consequences. I dont have HIV, those are my consequences.

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Who cares if the JWs are right?

by new light in

this is by no means an original idea, but even if the jws have been right all along, i don't care.

if pleasing god means not knowing what to think or feel without checking with headquarters first, then i don't need him.

who would want to be caught up in an eternal nightmare where the entire population was a braindead mass of clean-cut yes men?

MySuperSecret

I will go back as soon as im ready to stop leading a double life.

Do you think 50 percent of the baptised witnesses are going to be resurected? Probably not.

So why then do we let this 50 percent stumble us? My dad was da'ed because he had a brief affair within the congregation....shit happens alot, all the time. But he pulled thru, moved to another town, went back to meetings and now he is an elder.

This website oddly enough has been a great benefit to me. I can see why people leave, and truly ALL your claims are groundless, you use a situation to charge the whole organization. You judge others, you should pay attention to yourselfs, dont you know that its a constent battle to be in the truth. Judas betrayed jesus,

Without a doubt that trying to adhere to gods principles cause social problems all around satan aint gonna make it easy. Because I am not baptised and because I smoke I have had the chance to talk to alot of people who would normally not listen to witnesses. I have placed liturature with mormons, penacostalites (sry cant spell), Im in a very deep debate with a pastor from colorado who believes in calvinism. I get alot of enjoyment proving other religions wrong.

When elders do wrong or other people do wrong. they probably admit it to the elders and try to move on.

Elders have been known to go before judicial commitees, but they dont talk about it, its private, if you go up to a judicial commitee they dont announce it and MOST elders are good about keeping it hush.

Stupid james 4:17 yah I know, thats why im heading back, im enrolling back in school and soon im gonna get a real job and then I can go back to meetings without putting myself in a situation where I have to lie or live a double life. lol i know where that will get me.

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JW reaction to Tsunami-information

by InquiryMan in

realizing that many witnesses are concerned with how many of their fellow beliveres are affected by natural disasters, i did provide those i know with some information on sms.

the information was based on various postings on the jw-believers are of belief.net (various reports supporting one another).

i thus found them rather trustworthy.

MySuperSecret

Do you think that the jws are equiped to do mass relieve? No there not, but they do what they can. I know everyone reading this hates jws, but if someone says there not doing anything they are.

There doing more then anyone of you,

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Who cares if the JWs are right?

by new light in

this is by no means an original idea, but even if the jws have been right all along, i don't care.

if pleasing god means not knowing what to think or feel without checking with headquarters first, then i don't need him.

who would want to be caught up in an eternal nightmare where the entire population was a braindead mass of clean-cut yes men?

MySuperSecret

and my name is just a name.

I was born and raised. Went thru all the shit of growing up in school with no cristman and birthday ect.... I joyrided in my car infront of elders...hahahaahahahahahahah what a look on there face. I eventually stopped going to meeting when I started smoking and soon after op out of my house. One thing I left with was my dads collection of books, He had alot of liturature dating back to the 20s and 30s, I still have most of it today. I read them more and more as a left the truth. I never agreed with there views on "wordly" people. I didnt like my friends being called that. But after all my friends back stabbed me and I back stabbed them in one way or the other, BITCHES ARE SCANDELOUS. I started to see just what my parents where so desperatly trying to hide me from, now im trapped in satans snares. I want to go back, , find me a girl worth dating number 1, get my life together number 2. My parents still talk to me lots, my dad was da'ed and came back, nows hes an elder, my aunt was dfed 20 years ago and just recently quit smoking and came back, my grandma used to hate witnesses, she had a stroke and forgot she smoked and hated witnesses, she went to meetings 5 months before she passed away......odd how she forgot....I thought maybe thats how it would be in the new system, we would just forget. It makes sense, anyway I wanna go back to meetings, I dont want it to be a buried part of my past, things I wish I could forget. cant do it sry

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Who cares if the JWs are right?

by new light in

this is by no means an original idea, but even if the jws have been right all along, i don't care.

if pleasing god means not knowing what to think or feel without checking with headquarters first, then i don't need him.

who would want to be caught up in an eternal nightmare where the entire population was a braindead mass of clean-cut yes men?

MySuperSecret

Joy arises among the angels of God over one sinner that repents." Acts 10:15 Those who have drifted away and lost contact with God's people remain precious in Jehovah's eyes. Jeremiah 31:3 says: " From far away Jehovah himself appeared to me, (saying) " And with a love to time indefinite I have loved you. That is why I have drawn you with loving kindness." Such individuals may be spiritually weak, yet they are not necessarily rebellious. despite their weakened state, to some extent they may still be keeping Jehovah's requirements. Psalm 119:176 says: " I have wandered like a lost sheep. O look for your servant. For I have not forgotten your own commandments." Acts 15:29 says: " " to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!" Hence, as in times past, Jehovah is slow to " cast them away from before his face." 2 Kings 13:23 We too are deeply concerned about those who are weak and missing from the Christian congregation. Ezekiel 34:16 says: " The lost one I shall search for, and the dispersed one I shall bring back, and the broken one I shall bandage and the ailing one I shall strengthen, but the fat one and the strong one I shall annihilate. I shall feed that one with judgement." We view a spiritually weak individual as a lost sheep ---- not a lost cause. We do not reason " why worry about a weak one? The congregation is getting along just fine without him." Rather, like Jehovah, we view those who have drifted away but who want to return as being valuable. Funny stuff dont you think Why am i here? 1) well im not baptised, so i can be here, and say whatever I want. 2) I was looking for the official site when I stumbled on this one. I cant believe there are so many disfellowed ship...you guys follow the witnesses cursing about them, prying into there business. Not ONE of you has a reason to be angry at them.....you should be pissed with yourselfs.

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JW reaction to Tsunami-information

by InquiryMan in

realizing that many witnesses are concerned with how many of their fellow beliveres are affected by natural disasters, i did provide those i know with some information on sms.

the information was based on various postings on the jw-believers are of belief.net (various reports supporting one another).

i thus found them rather trustworthy.

MySuperSecret

More

Dear Brothers,

>

> So many of you have shown interest in the welfare of the brothers staying in the coastal areas affected by tsunamis this past Sunday (Dec.26, 2004) ... emphasizing the truth expressed in our day's text today (Prov. 17:17). We are happy to report that to the best of our knowledge none of our local brothers were hurt or lost their lives.

>

> However we are sorry that we cannot say the same of our tourist brothers vacationing in these areas. Just a few minutes ago I talked with Sister Renate Steinl from Austria, now in Bangkok, who was staying in Kao Lak (a resort very popular with Europeans north of Phuket) with her husband who is also in the truth. She described how they were alerted by someone yelling at the top of his voice, realizing that some terrible thing must have happened. So they ran out of the bungalow they were staying in and soon saw the tsunami bearing in on them -- "higher than the trees" she described it. Of course they didn't get far before being swept away... She survived, but so far we have no clue on what happened to her husband. So there is still hope that he is found, though many people died in the resort area.

>

> Just yesterday I got the glad news that a Sister from England who had a similar experience, was reunited with her (unbelieving) husband who by some had been presumed dead already. Several ones of our brothers (including two special pioneers from Switzerland and one from Britain who serve here in Thailand) are touring the area, looking up hospitals etc. and showing pictures of the missing Austrian brother. It could be that he is severely injured or suffers from memory loss and thus was unable to make contact himself ... however I personally rate the chances are rather slim that he will be found; hopefully I will be proven wrong in this regard.

>

> Then there is the Finish sister who also was separated from her husband. We were alerted by the brothers in Finland of her ordeal. The brothers spent many hours till finally locating her in a hospital in Phangnga. She doesn't speak English (like the Austrian sister) and needed help to explain her stand on blood. Finally she was operated on successfully without blood. Her husband, a brother, is presumed dead--as far as I heard it. While still in the operating room our special pioneer phoned we should select a hospital in Bangkok because she would be taken there with an ambulance shortly. I tried to arrange for that, asking a Finish Sister (former missionary here) to be ready to receive her. Soon afterwards he phoned again, saying that no ambulance was available (something I doubted from the very beginning), and that we should find one in Bangkok to get her (a round trip of about 1,700 km). Government agencies said they couldn't help and I should try to find a private hospital who would be willing to let us hire an ambulance... It finally turned out that it was agreed that she should be transported to nearby Phuket and there a special plane from Finland would pick her up. Hopefully she is back in Finland now. I had so far no news on her husband.

>

> Now just as I am writing this email, I got a call from an elder from Krabi. He phoned yesterday telling us that a German couple who had been vacationing at Kao Lak (the same resort mentioned above) hasn't been seen since and that he is worried that they may have been victims of the tsunami. I spent a couple of hours yesterday trying to trace them (via many phone calls, Internet searches), to no avail. Now he gives me the good news that some sister found their names on a list of those having been able to return to their home countries. Thus one worry less.

>

> Interestingly some Swedish Brothers went in the field service with the Phuket congregation on Sunday morning rather than frolicking in the sea. It may have saved their lives as when they came back to their living quarters many cabins had been destroyed by the huge waves. They thanked Jehovah that they had put his service first over enjoying swimming and sunning themselves.

>

> There are a number of other foreign brothers having atteded meetings but that have not been heard of since. At this stage we just can't say what happened to them. Well, one thing we all can do is keeping our affected brothers in our prayers-- I am sure you all will and already do. One positive aspect of the disaster is that surely people will here and elsewhere give more attention when we quote Mt. 24:7 where it says about the time of the end that there will be "earthquakes in one place after another."

>

> With much brotherly love,

>

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JW reaction to Tsunami-information

by InquiryMan in

realizing that many witnesses are concerned with how many of their fellow beliveres are affected by natural disasters, i did provide those i know with some information on sms.

the information was based on various postings on the jw-believers are of belief.net (various reports supporting one another).

i thus found them rather trustworthy.

MySuperSecret

This is a email string I recieved with accurate info and is the most officail responce your gonna get. I will post them as I get them.

We had a report from the Chairman's Committee of the Governing Body

> > today at lunch regarding the effects of the earthquake and resulting

> > tsunami that hit southeast Asia.

> >

> > Information from the affected branches is still coming in but currently

> > they report that no local brothers were killed and there were only minor

> > injuries and only limited water damage to Kingdom Halls.

> >

> > In Sri Lanka most of the brothers were at their meetings when it

> > occurred which are mostly on the western side of the island. Since the

> > tsunami hit the eastern side of the island the brothers were protected.

> >

> > In Thailand, 2 brothers staying at a popular vacation spot are confirmed

> > dead. There are other brothers on vacation that are reported missing and

> > the branch is working to identify and locate them.

> >

> > There were 2 brothers from Switzerland who were on vacation in the area

> > that decided to go in the ministry and when they returned their resort had

> > been destroyed.

> >

> > All the branches are providing relief supplies and comfort to the affected

> > area as needed.

> >

> > The Governing Body is still awaiting word from the Indonesia Branch and

> > will possibly have more to report tomorrow.

> >

> > Liz Lutz

> >

>

> > Here is an update today from our Bethelite friends in Sri Lanka........

> >

> > "Dear Friends,

> >

> > A small update on the situation here in Sri Lanka.

> >

> > Bethel is co-ordinating some relief efforts, and we are busy receiving

> > supplies, sorting them and then sending them out to the brothers. As

> > brothers return from delivering their first lot of supplies, we are able

> > to get a clearer picture of what is required.

> >

> > A second truck has just left for Trincomalee, on the east of the island.

> > It will take them about 10 hours to get there. Relief has been sent down

> > south to Galle, North to Negombo, and East to Trinco and Batticoloa.

> > Obtaining clean drinking water is a priority, and the brothers on the way

> > to Batticoloa were able to stop at a water plant and fill up many

> > containers full.

> >

> > We are also sending out matting and bedding, clothes, cooking equipment,

> > candles, basic medical supplies, in addition to dry rations. Some of our

> > brothers have lost their homes and all their posessions. Some are still

> > missing. One local sister and her husband went down to Galle today to look

> > for her mother, father and two sisters who were on holiday there when the

> > wave struck. A group of 15 italian tourists, brothers and sisters, who

> > were missing were found to be safe. In fact they have just visited Bethel

> > on their way to the airport! So that was some good news.

> >

> > We appreciate so much your loving concern and prayers.

> >

> > Our warmest love,"

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Who cares if the JWs are right?

by new light in

this is by no means an original idea, but even if the jws have been right all along, i don't care.

if pleasing god means not knowing what to think or feel without checking with headquarters first, then i don't need him.

who would want to be caught up in an eternal nightmare where the entire population was a braindead mass of clean-cut yes men?

MySuperSecret

Oh man, I cant believe this site exists.....I cant believe some of the things people say. LOL

Okay....I think You ALL should have been mormons......apparently the bible is way too deep for alot of people...oh well chop them crappy trees down I say. Its too bad that satan killed all of you, damn our free will.

If there wrong.....IF there STILL wrong about CERTAIN THINGS, why cant anyone prove that.....its always there wrong...I know it......yup whatever prove it, show how, do something. Oh AND TRY NOT TO ACT LIKE THERE PERFECT. Elders have been known to be dfed, once even a member of the governing body I believe.

I wish I could be an elder one day and have the responsibility of keeping jehovahs organization free of cowards. After all cowards are listed among those destroyed at armagedon. And i mean do you think Jehovah is a wimp? You think he of all people would actually allow some punny little stupid imperfect human to tell him off....damn he so nice hes actually letting you live....For now.

People dont want to live in paradise with jws....so ill admit that I believe in a paradise then ill dismiss it because im too stupid to realize that im imperfect and could never ever ever picture what paradise might actually be...jws try to make a nice picture with people and smiles but really they dont know exactly what it will be, but they have an idea.

If you cant read, you cant talk, then ur useless....life sucks and reality is harsh, get over it and go back to a meeting where u know noone and start freash.....the point that this site exists and that you people actually use it alot shows that you all know its the truth...you just have problems admiting that. You should have taken it more serious when you got baptised. That shit aint a joke