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  Divorcing my husband of 13 years...

  by 2pink in

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  my husband and i were both born ins.

  i left in 2009, and he followed me out a bit later.

  we were one of those couples who followed the script, married young and ended up having nothing in common other than the religion.

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  I am sorry to hear you're going through this. I have no idea about being a parent, but I've reinvented myself from nothing a few times too. It feels awful and terrifying. I guess one good thing is you know it's possible, having done it before. I hope you'll continue to post here for support.

  One thing I do know about is addiction. Here is a resource that may be of use to you as you go forward. It can be important to get help for yourself, even if there is no goal to reconcile.

  It's interesting, isn't it, that fundie xian groups tend to push marriage so young. That tends to just subjugate the woman--she hasn't built a career or sense of self as an adult, so she tends to not leave bad relationships. Getting married when you're so young and brainwashed seems to skip over several of te steps needed to make a relationship successful (not always, of course).
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  Well, it was a fine week to LEAVE!

  by RagingBull in

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  ....well, i was going to wait.

  go out with a bang!?

  i decided (like many others this week!

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEIJ3YqPbqg
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  Posters do you know of any cases where a devout JW was DF'd for Lesbianism?

  by booker-t in

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  i think this is a hush hush topic among jws but i remember years ago at an assembly i saw two sisters(i am only assuming they were jws they could have been studies or relatives of jws) walking arm and arm like a married couple.

  some of the jws looked at them like they had horns.

  some of the jws moms were covering their small children's eyes and those two women were stared at like they had the plague.

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  Walking arm in arm = lesbians?

  I'm surprised they had that reaction? There must be something I'm missing. Friends walk arm in arm sometimes.
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  the flood, mammoths, elphants, and food.

  by Crazyguy in

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  my question is since it looks as though mammoths were alive after the flood and we know elephants are then how much food was needed to feed just these four animals for the time they were on the ark.

  also was the ark, 500 feet long, big enough to hold the amount of food needed for just these 4 animals.. .

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  They estimate 6 to 8 million species of bugs. The ark would be overrun with crawling creatures.

  No thanks I'll swim,

  Speedracer

  I just snort-laughed
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  Spanking VS. Reasoning

  by SpeedRacer in

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  i am having a discussion at work with the jw's.

  should you spank a child to make them understand or do you reason with them.

  they both agree with spanking.

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  came to the meetings loaded with instruments of punishment

  Oh yeah, I remember that. Sticking out of the bookbags so the children would see the weapon the whole time. I fail to understand how that could possibly be appropriate.

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  Does anyone who was spanked as a child ever look back at it in a positive light? I saw we had one "neutral" response. Is there anyone who thinks it was the right thing to do and there were no other options? Just curious.
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  I loathe authority

  by punkofnice in

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  now i'm not preaching hatred here i am just expressing how i've felt for years even when i was a jw.. i totally loathe the police/policticians...any authority......anyone that is over anyone else.

  i have a total hatred of them all.

  i wonder if it's because i was raised a jw?.

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  I had a lot of difficulty with authority after I exited. I do know part of that has to do with the cult.
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  Spanking VS. Reasoning

  by SpeedRacer in

  1. jw
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  i am having a discussion at work with the jw's.

  should you spank a child to make them understand or do you reason with them.

  they both agree with spanking.

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  The idea behind spanking is that it serves as an adjustment/punishment for someone who you cannot reason with - redvip2000

  I just remembered the wts came out with some sort of instruction to parents that they could terminate corporal punishment at "the age of reason", but it was not required. IIRC, that was considered (among dubs) to be progressive and newfangled doctrine, and only the most modern dubs were implementing it. The most faithful continued to "use the rod or spoil the child", no matter the age.

  I personally had my last beating the day of my high school graduation. For the first time, I held Mommy Dearest's arms back and told her, "Never again."
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  the flood, mammoths, elphants, and food.

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my question is since it looks as though mammoths were alive after the flood and we know elephants are then how much food was needed to feed just these four animals for the time they were on the ark.

  also was the ark, 500 feet long, big enough to hold the amount of food needed for just these 4 animals.. .

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  Most of all his thoughts and ways are higher than ours so we will never understand totally his logic.

  He made us in his image, and wrote a book about all this so we'd know what happened. After all that, why leave us not understanding?

  He created the laws of nature. Why abandon them for only 40 days?

  He says he's a god of love. How can you believe that while knowing he drowned so many of his creations alive and awake? And why the innocent ones (animals)?

  There is plenty of proof positive no global flood ever occurred.
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  St. Louis police are asking for your help in finding a man who set fire to the Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses

  by Sol Reform in

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  st. louis (kmox) - st. louis police are asking for your help in finding a man who set fire to the kingdom hall of jehovahs witnesses at 2428 north grand.. the fire occurred saturday september 13th at 6:15 a.m.. a surveillance camera recording shows a suspect: a white male with a beard and mustache wearing a green jacket and coveralls.. anyone with information is asked to call crimestoppers at 866 371 tips.. man sought for setting fire to jehovahs witness building.

  man sought for setting fire to jehovahs witness buildin... fire was set at 2428 north grand early saturday.

  view on www.thenewscommen.... preview by yahoo.

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  Found him!

  
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  Spanking VS. Reasoning

  by SpeedRacer in

  1. jw
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  i am having a discussion at work with the jw's.

  should you spank a child to make them understand or do you reason with them.

  they both agree with spanking.

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  rebel8

  I don't have children and I am not the product of a "humane spanking" parenting model. My experience is limited to what anyone nowadays would call abuse. There were daily "spankings" with objects, open and closed fists. The "reasoning" was limited to nonsense from the likes of the Youth book.

  What I can tell you is I was a skeptical child, always needing a reason to agree or believe. My abusive parent punished corporally for refusal to agree with wts doctrine, physically defending myself from bullies or even just having the wrong look on my face. It was a daily event.

  I do not love this parent, to this day.

  My UBM parent did reason with me and it worked.

  Pretty much the theme was, "Yeah, when I was your age I used to think my parents were so old and I was the only one who [insert whatever event had happened that included me acting up]. But then I realized I was wrong. Kids are all the same no matter what generation they're in. It seems like a big deal now but it won't in the future. All you have to do is wait. Now you can keep acting up but it won't make anything better."

  I remember talks comparing children to beasts in the field who "needed" to be beaten to learn--there was no other way to learn. I used to quote scriptures that said not to exasperate your child, and then be beaten for that!

  I would be interested in learning from (now) adults who were lightly spanked, "appropriately" (if there is such a thing).