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  Why attack?

  by newqatarjob in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!

  ) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.

  i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.

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  rebel8

  The OP can be used interchangeably for any sort of abuse. (For the few of you who was not spiritually/physically/mentally abused by the dubs, this does not apply to you.)

  As someone who has been a pedophile and imprisoned (twice!!!) I find it difficult to understand why abuse survivors have to attack the lifestyle, yes lifestyle, not crime or rape. I am no longer in the lifestyle just do not want to practice anymore. I have no malice or hatred or disgust for any human. So why the constant attacks on them? I came across this site by accident and registered just for this post really. Just be kind to people, say nice things and you will be surprised at how life treats you long term. Do I believe pedophilia is wrong? Unsure. As a man in his 50s thr older I get the less I realise I understand and it is wonderful finding out! So come on fellow humans live and let live. Allow people to be fanatical or not to give a damn! In the memorable words of Woody in Toy Story "Play nice"! Have a wonderful day, week, month, year and rest of your life.
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  Why attack?

  by newqatarjob in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!

  ) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.

  i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.

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  rebel8

  You see it as attacking? I see it as venting.

  Survivors of abuse forums probably vent and criticize their abusers highly too. I find it hard to stomach the notion that it's attacking.

  Great for you that you don't find a need to vent and criticize the "religion" as you call it. Sounds like you are not nearly as scarred as some of us.

  Instead of criticizing (which by your own definition is also attacking) those of us who were physically/spiritually/verbally abused, perhaps you should educate yourself first. You know, try to understand others' perspectives. :)

  For example:

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  here

  Besides the "selfish" reasons, speaking out has literally saved countless people from the grip of a harmful course of action.
  

  "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
  
  
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  Help! I'm drowning!

  by vinman in

  1. jw
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  my wife and sons don't know how far i have gone in withdrawing from the organization in my heart.

  i've been faking family worship.

  i got angry and almost showed it while watching the march tv.org.

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  Your mom is probably not going to die if you leave, and your life won't be completely in ruins for ever and ever. It will be one of the hardest things you've ever done, but the sun will rise tomorrow. It will be ok. Do the right thing and you will feel a sense of peace and relief.
  
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  An anthropologist visits a JW community in Santa María Zapotitlán, Mexico

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  dr. jena barchas-lichtenstein is an anthropologist who received her doctorate through ucla.. https://www.linkedin.com/pub/jena-barchas-lichtenstein/43/427/702.

  in 2013, barchas-lichtenstein submitted the paper "when the dead are resurrected, how are we going to speak to them?

  ": jehovah's witnesses and the use of indigenous languages in the globalizing textual community as a partial submission for her doctoral dissertation..

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  Excellent!
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  Jehovah Witness net - Bug

  by redvip2000 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  has anybody else noticed a bug with this website, where once you publish your post, only a section of it is actually posted.. this happens to me about half the time.

  i'm not sure if it only happens with firefox on a mac, but i will try on a different browser.. i got to the point where i actually copy my post, then publish it, and then go back to it and paste the text again, so i don't have to write the whole thing again..

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  I have that problem sporadically in Firefox and I'm on a PC.
  
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  DC2015 New Release: Brochure "Return to Jehovah" for those who faded/left

  by Designer Stubble in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it appears that a new 16-page brochure, with the title "return to jehovah" is to be released at the regional convention (dc) this year.

  it would be written specifically for those faded or da/df.chapters are:a letter from the governing body1.

  the lost one i will search for2.

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  They are making a kids' version too.

  It's told from the perspective of Caleb. His 7 friends leave the Borg.

  Chapter 1: Joshua misses meetings after feeling guilty for masturbating. Jehovah is disappointed. And titillated.

  
  

  Chapter 2: Aaron has a Sparlock doll. Demons materialize as a snake while he's drinking his oj. Jehovah is sad.

  
  

  Chapter 3: Rachel wears red lipstick. She doesn't show repentance when the elders try to lovingly counsel her. Jehovah hates that, so he has to have the elders to throw her out the window. And he's titillated.
  

  
  

  Chapter 4: Matthew wears tight pants, and instantly turns gay. Jehovah is disappointed. And titillated.
  

  

  Chapter 5: Esther wears a skirt that shows her kneecaps. She immediately becomes a prostitute. Jehoopla is annoyed. And titillated.

  
  

  Chapter 6: Diana and Peter go on a first date after having met earlier that day at the literature counter in the back of the hall. Their chaperone leaves them together in the car for 5 minutes while he runs to the ATM. They instantaneously have sex. Diana gets pregnant, even after only this single sex interview (like cows). They are forced to have a quickie wedding in Peter's mom's back yard. Jehoho cries.

  
  

  Chapter 7: Luke lounges at Dunkin Donuts instead of watching his literature cart. No one is there to help the angels separate the sheep from the goats. Jehovah is pissed off. Lazy Luke. How is he going to develop his work ethic so he can dig all those graves in Paradise?

  
  
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  why report more partakers?

  by rebel8 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  of all the threads here about the number of partakers increasing, i don't recall theories as to why they report this.

  they could stop reporting numbers altogether or lie.

  instead they say, in essence, "our teachings about end times and heavenly hope are still wrong"..

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  there was a "brother" who started partaking He did this for. Few years until his wife died then he stopped because he wanted to be with her in the new system.

  Excellent--you get a choice of afterlives. Like a menu.
  
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  Why do religious people make claims and then refuse to back them up?

  by Viviane in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  several times over the past few months i have had conversations, both here and in real life, with religious people making all sorts of interesting and conflicting claims.

  i like to know how things work, so generally i will ask questions to net out what i am being told and see if it can be explained and make sense.. for instance, if someone said 2+2=4 and i asked how, there are a variety of ways that could be shown to me, a number line, physical objects being put together, counting on fingers and toes, etc.

  indeed, in my personal life, i often have to explain how certain technologies work, sometimes planned, sometimes off the cuff, from a variety of group sizes to a varying degree of technical expertise.

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  This thread needs some audiovisual aids.

  
  

  
  

  My new favorite meme:

  
  
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  why report more partakers?

  by rebel8 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  of all the threads here about the number of partakers increasing, i don't recall theories as to why they report this.

  they could stop reporting numbers altogether or lie.

  instead they say, in essence, "our teachings about end times and heavenly hope are still wrong"..

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  rebel8

  Still doesn't make sense.

  Why did they start reporting it? To prove Thee End is approaching. We used to get so excited to see the numbers go down every year!
  

  Why keep reporting, when the numbers show we are moving further away from Thee End instead of coming closer?
  
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  JW.Org masturbation video - a sign language translators thoughts

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower 'masturbation' video has caused quit a fuss and imo rightly so.

  let me relate an experience that took place almost 40 years ago, in the 1970's.. i was translating for several families who attended our hall from outside the territory.

  the reason they came to our congregation is that i was the only one in the area willing to exert myself to learn the american sign language.

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  Thank you so much for posting this.

  At one point, we were accused of making fun of sign language. I am still SMH that was even a debate. We were mocking a shocking video that shows wts' hypocrisy and lack of a clue about what's appropriate to talk to the flock about.