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  17 year old son is blaming me for ruining his life from the Cult. He's complaining "I could have been a high school sports star!"

  by PhilsWager2 in

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  2. beliefs

  you know about my not-so-ugly divorce and how me and my wife found out the religion is false.

  she still attends while my 17 year old has been raging on me about all the wasted time he suffered from by being in this religion.

  he think's his life is ruined, very angry we did not learn this was a cult earlier(he was 14 when he stopped attending after reading the revelation book, he said "in all time and history, how could a trumpet blown in revelation have anything to do with a jw bible student convention statement"?.

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  Anger is a normal stage of grief.

  Acknowledge his feelings, apologize and help him reset his perceptions. 17 years old is a great time to build a life worth living, and he has plenty of time to do it.
  
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  The JW religion has just cost me my marriage & my family life

  by jambon1 in

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  2. friends

  after leaving the organisation 10 years ago i fought with everything i had to stay in my marriage and with my three children.

  after a tumultuous number of years trying to maintain a happy family life while living in a divided home, it's finally over.

  the religion is single handedly responsible for destroying my marriage and my family.

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  I am sorry. (( )) I hope for you that you are able to rebuild a life worth living very quickly and smoothly, with as little pain as possible.

  Would you be able to take some time off and go somewhere new for a week, just to give yourself a mental change of venue? Somewhere peaceful or interesting, that fills your mind with the possibilities of a new life.
  

  You have accomplished the division that your holy book brags about.

  Well said.
  
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  Should I Make My Wife Watch the May Broadcast?

  by TTATTelder in

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  2. friends

  for some background, i am still in.

  still an elder.

  very much awake.

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  rebel8

  I don't think you should directly point out your own reactions to the video. Instead:

  "Wow, I am concerned interested ones may misinterpret this. As The Society has said for over 100 years, we do not ask for money. That is a mark of Babylon The Great. You can even find that message consistently stated throughout the literature 100 years ago, through the 1980s televangelist scandals, and up 'til now. Those televangelists had mansions and enormous, expensive churches that weren't needed. No, we're not like the other churches.

  "Although Bro. Lett says this in the video, he later mentions how expensive the new _(unnecessary thing)___ costs and that they really want donations. He doesn't really make a case for why the ___(unnecessary, expensive, ridiculous planned purchase)___is really important. I'm so concerned interested ones will think we are the same as other churches."

  
  
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  A Burger and a Hook-up

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i went to get a burger just now, and a couple of elders from my former congregation caught me off guard.

  they started giving me the we feel so sorry for you, you must be so lonely bit.

  i kept telling them im doing great and im not lonely but its like they couldnt hear me talking.

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  if I go they can introduce me to them....They know I’ve been inactive for over a year so I have no idea why they would want to hook me up with a “Spiritual Sister”.

  After I'd been inactive for several years, a bro invited me to go in field service.

  And by 'inactive', I mean, "after saying very clearly that I would never return to the dubs".

  Weirdos.
  
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  JW 'urban legends'

  by Steve Lowry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was thinking about some of the old jw urban legends that we grew up with and believed in as jws.

  most of the ones i remember revolved around stories about demons, and jws being "attacked" when they would do something wrong.

  some of these legends scared the crap outta me when i was little.

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  ^I should point out, I don't even have HIV and still the dubs said that. That really sounds more illogical than Westboro Church!

  It's interesting, isn't it, that most cult fearmongering legends boil down to a few themes:

  1. Demons
  2. Angels
  3. Special knowledge God allows only a few people to know
  4. Sex
  5. Disobedience
     
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  JW 'urban legends'

  by Steve Lowry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was thinking about some of the old jw urban legends that we grew up with and believed in as jws.

  most of the ones i remember revolved around stories about demons, and jws being "attacked" when they would do something wrong.

  some of these legends scared the crap outta me when i was little.

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  rebel8

  Having a bleeding disorder and being an inferior gender in the jw cult was "interesting". The dubbies had a lot of whacked out fears about me.

  "Hemo-philia" means "like/attract" and "blood" which means you like blood. Vampires like blood too. Therefore you are like a vampire. Vampires are demonic; therefore you may be possessed by demons.

  Rasputin treated a hemophiliac boy using magic spells. Magic spells are from demons; you have a similar medical issue as that boy. Therefore you may be possessed by demons.

  Much of this was sparked when the dubbies would see me having marathon nosebleeds at the kh and realizing it's impossible to not have a single drop go down your throat. And swallowing it instead of pouring it on the ground is a huge sin.
  

  I was in my early teens when these things were said to me. Reprehensible.

  Later, when HIV was identified, and some hemophiliacs had it, I was told I shared in the sin of gay men because they had the same disease. Obviously it was a curse from Jehovah. I was a virgin heterosexual girl.

  I had blood products before becoming a dub (not while I was a dub) and they said I would be naturally sinful because I had other people's personalities inside my body from their blood.
  

  They theorized I had so much innate sin coursing through my veins that Jehovah would not be able to allow me to survive through Armageddon--only through paying the wage of death could I be considered clean. (I was terrified of that but not sure they were correct.)
  
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  What Jehovah's Witnesses need to do to become Mainstream

  by FusionTheism in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was raised a jehovah's witness, so i know all the "ins-and-outs" of their theology and belief system..

  in my view, they can become a part of mainstream christianity and lose their cult status by making just a few changes for the better:.

  1: stop their severe shunning practices.

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  Just from the recent changes, I wonder if they are toying with the idea of becoming mainstream. The tv, website, cartoon characters, banners at conventions, dancing in the halls, etc. But they still seem very culty--dictating which hotels to use, colored socks, skinny pants.

  If they go mainstream, they have to give up control. Has any cult gone mainstream before?
  
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  I Felt Proud Telling People That Michael Jackson Was Raised a JW

  by Tempest in a Teacup in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just remembered this thing this morning:.

  sharing the same faith with the king of pop made me feel important for belonging to this religion, even if he was never baptised.

  we were not in america or anywhere close by.

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  I recall telling people that MJ was a dub, but I don't remember it having the intended effect on me or the person I told. Didn't feel better.

  And then the Thriller video...omg...I was so embarrassed. I had been not celebrating Halloween for all those years, and there he is doing that.
  
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  Why I remain one of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Brother Jeramy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  allow me to begin with a clarification: when i say i am one of jehovah's witnesses, i don't mean that i am an advocate of the watchtower society or a devotee of some of its more controversial false teachings.

  i mean that i am a christian, a disciple of jesus christ dedicated to jehovah god, and who remains in union with my brothers and sisters who make up the family of faith that globally refers to itself as jehovah's witnesses.

  some totally understand the distinction between the family of brothers and sisters and the corporate organization known as the watchtower society (wts).

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  It is all wrong. Wrongety, wrong, wrong, wrong.

  evilbible.com
  
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  Orchestral Accompaniment for Singing at Congregation Meetings

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to all congregationsre: orchestral accompaniment for singing at congregation meetings.

  dear brothers:.

  many will find that the newly composed orchestral recordings are more inspiring andconducive to our worship than is piano music alone.

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  rebel8

  Wait, this is news? I could swear they made us get rid of the pianos in the 1980s and replaced them with those horrible cassettes.