Posts by rebel8
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If they only had a brain
by Sour Grapes inlast sunday i visited a hall to see a friend.
the brother giving the talk spent the first 20 minutes talking about how bad the world is and then the next 10 minutes he pointed out how god's kingdom is the answer.
one thing he mentioned is all of the millions of starving children in the world and how the money that we spend on just a few bombs that are dropped in the wars could feed thousands of children.
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rebel8
I wonder if he realizes how much cashola the borganization has, and how many starving jws that would feed. -
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I just found out that my youngest brother committed suicide
by SnakesInTheTower inmy middle brother called me a couple of hours ago.
our youngest brother, josh, who was 38, was found by his friends in his apartment.
he hung himself.
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rebel8
Oh that's terrible. I'm so sorry.
Shock is understandable.
Your feelings will come, and they will probably be mixed--sadness, horror, anger, and maybe eventually relief that he is no longer suffering. These are all ok things to feel.
He probably just wanted to be free of the pain, and now he is.
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Creepy things jw's have said to you
by purrpurr inhere's mine: i'm 14 years old, just baptised and a old boy married elder of about 60 odd comes up to me and says " ooooooooooh!
"purrpurr"!
your getting such a lovely figure on you!
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rebel8
Claiming a young girl took birth control pills for a hormonal problem and grew a penis. This was a specific girl. I can imagine few more hateful rumors to start. Then they said she fell away and became a prostitute because the pill made her sex crazed.
Announcing that 13-year old unbaptized kids committed immorality, and giving their names in the announcement.
Telling me, as a 10-year-old, that I was "damaged goods, like a rape victim" because I had been given transfusions before becoming a jw. Stating I would never be clean from it unless I died and was resurrected. Stating I would probably never find any jw male willing to be my husband because I was damaged in this way.
Sickos.
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My first post
by thewalker inhi, i just joined the board and wanted to present myself.. i'm active, in fact very active in congregation activities serving "where the need is great" in a foreign language congregation somewhere in western europe.
as a young brother, i'm seen as an example as i'm doing all a good witness should do.. i had doubts years ago but i decided just to ignore them and move to another congregation to preach more.
that worked for some years but i'm now at the exact same point.
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rebel8
This is good advice from The Society:
Zion's Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence October 1879 (reprint) p.38 "The Ten Virgins"
We do not object to changing our opinions on any subject, or discarding former applications of prophecy, or any other scripture, when we see a good reason for the change,-in fact, it is important that we should be willing to unlearn errors and mere traditions, as to learn truth... It is our duty to "prove all things."…by the unerring Word,…"and hold fast to that which is good."
For more quotes from wts literature encouraging the same thing, go here. Of course you can confirm these are true quotes by searching literature yourself.
Search out a life worth living, enjoying and using it to its fullest, contributing to your community and being the best person you can be.
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Building layoffs & JW calendar 2016 theme
by Gorbatchov inthe theme of the jw calendar 2016 is building, building, building.
all the calendar pictures are about building wts property with cheap labor witnesses.. and then, just before the year approaches the building has halted.. it seems a short term decision.
a strange correlation again.. gorby.
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rebel8
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Largest BOE file in existence - updated as of November 2015
by WTS Archive incourtesy of atlantis, largest boe file ever compiled has been updated (see previous version here).. to download it, visit: http://www.filedropper.com/1905-2016-boe-file.
click on gray "download this file" button, then solve the captcha and enjoy the massive, 1.2 gb file containing nerly every secret letter and document watchtower society published since 1905 up until now..
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rebel8
When I saw the thread title, I thought it was going to be a list naming all the bodies of elders. -
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Mass disassociation December 10, 2015?
by rebel8 inthis was discussed here..
the mormons beat us to it..
i see some were saying wts wont change from mass disassociation.
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rebel8
This was discussed here.
I see some were saying wts won’t change from mass disassociation. Even if that is true, the publicity would further reduce the social acceptability of being a jw, therefore restricting its growth. That seems worthwhile IMO.
I suggested a simultaneous Twitter campaign using the same hashtags to create a buzz. Everyone could do it within the same 24-hour period.
Is anyone doing the mass letters?
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WTS checklist for Elders to destroy evidence?
by DarioKehl inhttps://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/3t1yp7/marc_and_cora_posted_on_utube/.
hot off the presses from exjw reddit earlier today.
massive leak in uk.. if true, this is big (and very, very disturbing)..
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rebel8
I see a reddit page with a bunch of links to youtube and 1 link to an unfamiliar site to download something.
Anyone have any idea what this supposedly says?
Corporations have document retention and destruction policies. Is this something different?
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Humans are not wired to want the truth
by rebel8 inthat's what i suspect.. perhaps some of us retrained our brains to not surrender to a natural urge to believe the simplest, most drama-laden spins on facts.. examples (at least i think this is the truth!):.
the clock.
the son of muslim activists makes a device that, on purpose, looks like a bomb.
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rebel8
Within the last few years, I re-examined by beliefs about alt med and GMOs. It was hard to do--I had to seek out legitimate publications and look at evidence as a body instead of anecdotes. It was also a little humiliating to learn that my beliefs were bunk, one by one.
It takes courage and effort to understand real science.
It takes no effort to believe quackery.
I can tell you this: It's worthwhile. Free yourself from the vestiges of jw science denying. It's exhilarating.
Vaccines--this is probably the best, most effective scientific advancement of our time. Overwhelming evidence is freely available proving safety. And most people can get their vaccines at no charge. Yet people are refusing this fabulous technology in favor of believing woo and conspiracy theories. So sad.
With a few clicks on sites like Google Scholar, NIH, or sciencebasedmedicine.org, you can find the truth about why there is an increase in the # of autism cases diagnosed, why girls are going into puberty younger, etc. These are not unknowns.
Good luck in your pursuits. :)
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Humans are not wired to want the truth
by rebel8 inthat's what i suspect.. perhaps some of us retrained our brains to not surrender to a natural urge to believe the simplest, most drama-laden spins on facts.. examples (at least i think this is the truth!):.
the clock.
the son of muslim activists makes a device that, on purpose, looks like a bomb.
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rebel8
That's what I suspect.
Perhaps some of us retrained our brains to not surrender to a natural urge to believe the simplest, most drama-laden spins on facts.
Examples (at least I think this is the truth!):
The clock. The son of Muslim activists makes a device that, on purpose, looks like a bomb. Brings it to school, and plays the victim. The media immediately reports this with a stock photo of a different clock, and people who don't read the farking article believe that's the clock he made. Drama ensues with people criticizing the school and police. Literally 24 hours later, some people try to reason with the Internet hordes by exposing the truth about the stock photo, but nobody listens. They'd rather shout with their torches. [citation]
The cups. A known con man, who calls himself a pastor, says Starbucks is persecuting xians because their holiday cups this year do not have a bold pattern. (They do have a pattern this year--just not a bold one, and in exactly zero previous years did they ever have a religious theme.)
A total of 6 people, who obviously are operating with a few xmas cookies short of a dozen, agree with him. They are the people who keep sending him $ for no reason, so they need to believe in him.
Atheists get a hold of his post and spread this non-story around the Internets. The proportion of atheists outraged at the xians to xians actually upset about the cup is approximately 1:10000000000000. The atheists start a campaign to patronize Starbucks even more. Over nothing.It is on the national news--meanwhile, no cure for cancer.
Vaccines. Need I explain? People are not getting their vaccines because they hear anti-vaxx, foaming at the mouth, nonsense. Truth doesn't matter.
GMOs. Human beings have been genetically modifying foods since their knuckles dragged on the ground, and they're safe, even when assisted by technology. A known purveyor of snake oil, Food Babe, made up a story about a scientist getting rich from GMOs (all while receiving much more $ from her sponsors). The scientist was harassed and threatened, even after donating the $, that he stepped out of public view for the sake of his family.
The apostle who started it all doesn't even believe it anymore.
What do you think? Are people simply hard wired to believe what they want, instead of what's true?