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  If YOU had to make the decision, would you respect a JW relatives wish to refuse a blood transfusion?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  a few years after i quit the meetings my mum needed her medical directive signed and witnessed and she asked if i'd do it.

  i was surprised to say the least!.

  i think she was just angling to include me and maybe find some lever to get me involved again.

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  rebel8

  This is a very thought-provoking question.

  Those of you who know me might be shocked at my answer, but here goes. I think I would not override their decision.

  This could be colored by the fact that I truly have no jw relatives that I actually love.

  I have a few minor jw relatives I've never met. I would agree for them to get blood because I figure they don't know any better.

  My adult jw relatives might be dumb, ignorant and brainwashed, but they are all evil SOBs too. Also, I figure being related to a jw hemophiliac has given them ample opportunity to think this through, and it's their decision to make.
  
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  ELDERS, ha ha ha ha....!!!!!

  by brandnew in

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  2. friends

  so as many know....ive been df'd goin on 19 years already.

  i drive pops to meetings, and drop him off on saturdays for fs.. well yesterday, the elders ask to speak to me, and tell me that if i plan on returning to jehovah, i had better shave my beard off..

  omg!!!!!!

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  Years after I left and told them point blank I'd never be back, they assigned me talks and invited me to go to field service. ROFL. My mother told me I had to call them and say I wouldn't do the talk, otherwise there'd be nobody to do it when the time came. I said good--everyone will get some excitement! LOL

  Well yesterday, the elders ask to speak to me, and tell me that if i plan on returning to jehovah, i had better shave my beard off.

  This is so dumb, there is no intelligent response. So here's this.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KmTTy_MM5w
  
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  Christian Family Gets 5 Children Taken Away by Gov't for Teaching God Punishes Sin

  by GodZoo in

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  2. current

  child welfare services in norway have reportedly removed five christian children from their parents' home and placed them into foster care after the parents were accused of radicalizing and indoctrinating their children with christianity.. according to the british-based christian institute, norway's child protection services, known as the barnevernet, seized the three sons and two daughters of ruth and marius bodnariu in mid-november.. .

  although the family wasn't quite sure at the time why their children were being taken away from them, their lawyer discovered that the parents were being charged with christian indoctrination.http://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-family-gets-5-children-taken-away-by-govt-for-teaching-god-punishes-sin-151693/.

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  rebel8

  So basically we don't get to hear the other side of the story, and we're asked to take this story at face value.
  
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  New York Times article Dec 31 2015

  by Gayle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/01/nyregion/stalled-brooklyn-park-exposes-rift-with-religious-group.html?_r=0.

  jehovahs witnesses have been criticized by community leaders for not fixing up parks in dumbo, brooklyn, as promised.

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  rebel8

  According to their own counsel, they must rectify this and build the park as promised.

  They should just get one of the idle quick build groups to go down there one week and get it done. This would be a "good witness" and a significant change from their previous behaviors.
  

  Let Your Yes Mean Yes

  “Just let your word Yes mean Yes, your No, No.”—MATT. 5:37.

  15 Proving true to our dedication vow means that we must also be faithful in other important matters. For example: Are you married? Then continue to honor the precious vow you made to love and cherish your marriage mate. Have you signed a business contract or filled out an application form for theocratic privileges? Then be true to your commitments and to what you have promised. Have you accepted an invitation to a meal by someone of humble means? Then do not cancel it if a seemingly better invitation is made by someone else. Or have you promised someone you met in the house-to-house ministry that you would call again to give that person further spiritual help? Then by all means let your Yes mean Yes, and Jehovah will bless your ministry.—Read Luke 16:10.

  16. If we have failed to keep our word, what should we do?

  16 The Bible states that as imperfect humans, “we all stumble many times,” especially in the use of our tongue. (Jas. 3:2) What should we do upon realizing that we have failed to keep our word? In God’s Law to Israel, there was a merciful provision for someone who was guilty of “speaking thoughtlessly with his lips.” (Lev. 5:4-7, 11) There is also a loving provision for Christians who commit such a sin. If we confess the specific sin to Jehovah, he will mercifully forgive us through the office of our High Priest, Jesus Christ. (1 John 2:1, 2) To remain in God’s favor, however, we must show fruits that befit repentance by not making a practice of such sins and by doing our best to make amends for any harm done by our thoughtless speech. (Prov. 6:2, 3) Of course, it is far better to think carefully before making promises that we are unable to fulfill.—Read Ecclesiastes 5:2.

  18 By proving faithful in the final test at the end of Jesus’ Millennial Reign, we will never again have reason to doubt anyone’s word. (Rev. 20:7-10) Every Yes will mean Yes, and every No, No. For everyone then living will be a perfect imitator of our loving heavenly Father, Jehovah, “the God of truth.”—Ps. 31:5.

  http://www.donotlink.com/hram
  
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  Blood Cards on File with the Elders?

  by EyesOpenHeartBroken in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i have a question for elders here or recent elders.

  were the elders, in the last 10 years, given instruction to keep a copy of every publishers blood card on file at the kh?.

  we moved to our current cong 6 years ago, and shortly after we moved in, the boe requested everyone update and give a copy of card to the kh.

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  rebel8

  Execute new healthcare proxies and have your PCP, other providers and hospital put a copy in your medical record. Keep a copy in a safe place at home and give copies to your closest trusted friends.
  

  The newest one will always trump the older.
  
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  this is a real picture

  by brandnew in

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  yeah watchtower is blessing their efforts .

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  rebel8

  Is this a typical building where it's at, or is it an anomaly?
  
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  No Soliciting signage and JW Policy

  by Oubliette in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does anyone have a copy of the boe letter directing publishers to not go into apartment complexes and/or condominium complexes with no soliciting signs?

  i ask because yesterday and buttheaded jw (that obviously had no idea who i am or my past) was knocking on doors in our condo complex.

  he would have had to drive past a sign which clearly states "no solicitation or material distribution.".

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  rebel8

  "No soliciting" doesn't apply to jws unless your particular municipality has taken a lot of liberties with the dictionary definition of the word.

  Since it doesn't apply, it's equally as irrelevant as having a sign that says, "No smoking", or "No skateboards." You wouldn't complain to your HOA or the police unless the dubs are smoking or skateboarding.

  You may, however, lobby your city or HOA to enact a rule prohibiting dubs from entering the neighborhood or whatever.
  

  Correct me if I'm wrong.
  
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  The worst gift of Christmas

  by GrreatTeacher in

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  2. friends

  everybody gets one, the gift that stared up at you hopefully from its beautiful wrapping, and then, like a deflated balloon, delivers the worst gift ever.. i'm not talking about the gifts from small children like the "greatest aunt" coffee mug or the red and black lace folding fan.

  surely you never would have chosen them for yourself, but it's the thought that counts from small people who love you.. then, there's the what the hell were they thinking gifts.

  my mother-in-law has been giving these a lot lately.

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  rebel8

  Hey, don't knock soap on a rope. It was very practical. There was not liquid soap back then, and it's a big problem to drop bar soap in the shower.

  Avon made it in many different scents. :)
  
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  Years ago son raised a few years as a JW. Now struggles with depression

  by Check_Your_Premises in

  1. social
  2. family

  background:.

  i spent some time here awhile back as an unbelieving mate of a jw wife.

  i learned a lot, and was able to be supportive and understanding when she decided to leave the jw.. unfortunately, my son seems to have internalized many of the jw teachings.

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  rebel8

  Hi, I remember you.

  Is it possible he needs to deprogram himself from the actual jw doctrines? Would he be willing to write down a list of specific beliefs that cause his angst, and then pick one at a time to examine in depth?

  You can guide him to finding specific jw literature citations on each topic that would cause unbelief in pretty much any reasonable person, and I'm sure you'd get a lot of help from the posters here.
  
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  Your Opinion Pleeease

  by thankyou in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  jw girl non-jw guy.

  tenuous boyfriend-girlfriend relationship.

  what is more likely to strengthen a relationship?.

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  rebel8

  If you want us to tell you what you want to hear, you probably came to the wrong forum. :)

  Relationships like this either don't work at all or partly work and are really painful.

  So my answer is:

  (1) Greet her for the "New Year's Holiday" as a normal person would
  

  (2) Mention religion heavily in the form of an ultimatum, then follow through with what you say you're going to do. State you are not going to ever change your views and are not going to stay in the relationship unless she happens to be ready to change hers right now, and vow to never be involved with jws again.