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  Just got an apology from an exJW

  by Village Idiot in

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  so i'm back from the store walking to my apartment, over a hundred units in the complex - all jws and ex-jws - and i see someone talking to an ex-jw neighbor of mine.

  she turns around and says "now there's some else i have to apologize to".. she identified herself as an old neighbor who used to play as a jw child right by my place.

  she had told me how she was raised to consider me and all the ex-jws in the apartment complex as evil and thought she had to apologize for that.. made my day.

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  How does the forum software keep deleting my middle paragraphs?
  
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  Just got an apology from an exJW

  by Village Idiot in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i'm back from the store walking to my apartment, over a hundred units in the complex - all jws and ex-jws - and i see someone talking to an ex-jw neighbor of mine.

  she turns around and says "now there's some else i have to apologize to".. she identified herself as an old neighbor who used to play as a jw child right by my place.

  she had told me how she was raised to consider me and all the ex-jws in the apartment complex as evil and thought she had to apologize for that.. made my day.

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  This post made me remember something I had forgotten. After leaving, I tried making amends to those I harmed as a result of being in the cult. I apologized the RC church for writing a DA letter. I apologized to many worldly relatives and others. For the most part, they seemed totally uncomfortable when I brought it up. A few felt relief.

  I don't know if any of these apologies made anyone feel better overall, come to think of it.
  
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  my worst fears were realized

  by magotan in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  im on my phone, so im really limited.

  i came out to my family about my doubts and my sexuality.

  shit hit the fan.

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  My mother had gastric bypass

  Amazing what mental gymnastics allow her to believe she's a-ok with her sin and you're a dead man walking.
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  I need some advise

  by Lost his mind in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  following is a letter i am going to send to the entire family both jw and non.

  i would like to get your advice on whether i should do it.

  my husband has told me before to voice my complaints but i have yet.

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  I think your husband should reply to each contact individually as he receives them. If he's not willing to respond, then that calls into question his desire to fix things. IMHO
  
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  Im sick of my life

  by BlackWolf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sorry but i really feel like i need to rant right now.

  recently my dad was made an elder so my family has been doing a lot more "theocratic" activities lately.

  every morning i wake up and put on my itchy dress and stupid makeup and heels and then pretend that i love what i'm doing and that everybody is my friend when in reality i feel horrible and all the other teenage girls at my hall hate me for some reason.

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  https://safepassagefoundation.org/

  That organization may be able to help you secure housing or with emergency expenses to escape. They also offer college scholarships. All of this is targeted towards children in cults.

  Escaping is not easy. I did it, with no $. My $ had been systematically confiscated with the single purpose of not enabling me to be able to move out of my cult mother's home.
  

  I had to plot for a long time. You may have to, too. I got a job that had some cash income. I hid the cash. It was found a few times and confiscated, so I had to start over. I don't know what the rules are now, but back then, my parents could go to the bank and withdraw $ from my accounts, so it wasn't safe there.

  I had to escape due to physical abuse. I found a worldly person willing to rent me half a bedroom for cheap. I stayed there til I was able to save some $ for my own teensy apartment. I kept doing that until I could get some specialized job skills so I could get a better paying job. And on and on it went until I became established in my career and earning a tidy income.

  It's possible, difficult, and worth doing. You have some work ahead of you, but lots to look forward to.
  

  *(Hint, hint--good cause to donate to!!)
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  JW Expressions We Hate

  by Socrateswannabe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was browsing through stuff on jw.org recently and ran across some expressions that really grate on my nerves: loyal love, loving-care, and loving-kindness, as in: "please exercise loving-kindness toward your servant.

  " who talks like that?

  they must be relics of the fred franz era.

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  one of jehovah's witnesses.

  Barf.
  
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  Counsel from Bro Losch (GB Member) to the Elders about the NFL

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  while attending a week long training class for elders in patterson, bro losch gave the concluding talk about loyalty to the borg, which i was in awe of(i went more in detail in a recent post about a s.a.d.

  where losch was the speaker).

  at the end of his talk, here's what he said: .

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  I think this is just another cult technique, not a sincere belief that football is bad. This is a classic dub tactic--take something that's popular and fun, and make it wrong. This creates divisions within the org--the weak and the obedient. The weak are pressured to become one of the obedient ones, and the obedient ones receive in-group social rewards.

  To those who haven't been familiar with the org over the decades, this seems unique. Those of us who've seen it for decades know otherwise. In the 70s it was the YMCA and disco. In the 80s it was skinny ties, Pac Man, dancing in any form, and pretty much all popular music. In the 90s it was baggy pants and pencil skirts.
  

  http://factnet.org/node/357
  

  TACTIC 2

  Establish control over the person's social environment, time and sources of social support by a system of often-excessive rewards and punishments. Social isolation is promoted. Contact with family and friends is abridged, as is contact with persons who do not share group-approved attitudes. Economic and other dependence on the group is fostered.

  ..TACTIC 4

  Make the person re-evaluate the most central aspects of his or her experience of self and prior conduct in negative ways. Efforts are designed to destabilize and undermine the subject's basic consciousness, reality awareness, world view, emotional control and defense mechanisms. The subject is guided to reinterpret his or her life's history and adopt a new version of causality.
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  Witnesses killed my friend today.

  by WasOnceBlind in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  today has been a horrible day.

  what began as a day of joy finding out that one of my lifelong friends had her baby, turned into a nightmare when her brother called me to let me know she had passed away after birth.

  i was in shock and didn't ask how.

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  I'm so sorry.
  
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  If YOU had to make the decision, would you respect a JW relatives wish to refuse a blood transfusion?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  a few years after i quit the meetings my mum needed her medical directive signed and witnessed and she asked if i'd do it.

  i was surprised to say the least!.

  i think she was just angling to include me and maybe find some lever to get me involved again.

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  On Page 3, the following scenarios are given.
  
  Happening upon a stranger who just slit his wrists...would you call an ambulance? Yes I would, because I have no context by which to assess his ability to make that decision himself, it is not possible for me to think it through and decide ahead of time, and the situation is emergent so I'd have to rely on professionals. Also, why is the stranger in view of someone who could rescue him, if he doesn't want to be rescued?
  
  Feeding someone poison is definitely not comparable to not interfering with an adult with free will adhering to a decision made over the course of decades.
  
  Back to the scenario I mentioned in an earlier post, who's to say by not interfering, I am not saving somebody else's life? These are the same folks who physically abused me, brainwashed me, and allowed me to develop life-threatening hypovolemia. They are out recruiting new victims to this day, specializing on vulnerable people. If we were talking about people who were not evil and were not attempting to recruit more victims into the evil cult, then my course of action may be different. But they are the equivalent of Borg drones. Yes, including the elderly and infirm ones.
  
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  Sick! "Stoning of Two Transgenders in Dortmund, Germany Prevented By Police In The Last Minute."

  by park ave boy in

  1. social
  2. current

  this is what europe is becoming?

  my work colleague in germany sent my this article in an email and it is perhaps one of the most disturbing things i have heard yet.

  i have been hearing about many of these recent homophobic and transphobic hate crimes taking place across europe but this one slipped through the cracks.

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  The bible mandates stoning men who lie with men--not far off from what these men tried to do.