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  Proof of false prophecies...in pictures

  by rebel8 in

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  post photographic evidence of dubs' false prophecies.

  i'll start:.

  the preaching work will conclude in the 20th century.

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  Revelation 6:5
  
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  Do you still believe in God?

  by FormerlySandL in

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  i never thought i would admit it, but i don't.

  i might superstitiously have some kind of doubt but digging a bit deeper in my heart i really don't believe in god.

  as a human i could never just sit and watch people be tortured, live years of abuse, suffer from illness and disabilities and all the other awful things people have to endure day after day without doing something about it.

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  No, OP, I don't. It took a long time to admit it to myself. I tried so hard to believe.

  The problem of suffering while god is omnibenevolent, omniscient and omnipotent cannot be answered logically.

  So then, I pondered if god does exist but isn't all 3 of the above. Again, I tried hard to look for him, her, them. But they just aren't there.

  I can't find even a single shred of evidence there is anything supernatural at all. Cameras and other technology has improved, yet we have no pictures of demons, ghosts, etc.

  To believe in god(s) after learning the facts about the natural world takes a lot of mental acrobatics.
  
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  Proof of false prophecies...in pictures

  by rebel8 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  post photographic evidence of dubs' false prophecies.

  i'll start:.

  the preaching work will conclude in the 20th century.

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  Post photographic evidence of dubs' false prophecies. I'll start:

  The preaching work will conclude in the 20th century. After that, End Times will begin. Hunger will be widespread and bread will cost a day's wage.
  

  
  
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  A frothy question ABOUT DEMONS

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
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  have you ever been to a circus and seen a "clown car"?.

  the little "bug" volkswagon drives out and clowns get out.

  lots and lots and lots and lots of clowns!.

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  "How big is a demon," is a legit question.

  If we are to believe Hollywood, being possessed by a single demon is quite exhausting. The demon runs your life, decides what you do, where you are, what you say, etc.

  Did all the demons in a single person suddenly develop a hive mind and work together?

  If not, wouldn't the person's brain or body be literally torn apart? What if one demon wanted the left arm to stab someone and another demon turned around and ran in the other direction, ripping the arm off? Would the left arm remain there mid-air, detached, stabby, and still demonized?
  

  
  
  
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  A fresh start

  by FormerlySandL in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  after the worst introduction i could ever make on the forum i would like to reintroduce myself and make a fresh start on the forum and hopefully over time i will be able to redeem myself.

  i have changed my user name which was over dramatic and ridiculous in the cold light of day but for transparency and to show i am not trying to hide anything i have adapted the original name and it now has a more positive feel.

  after reading a lot of posts on this forum i am feeling more optimistic about my future.

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  Holy crap. Just found the old thread. Could only get through the first few pages.

  We don't typically take well to people mentioning they need money because there is a lot of bad stuff that happened. We have an older poster here who has sent scammers money. We've had others drop dramatic stories on here, ask for money and disappear. We are skeptical of people because of the stuff we've been through, so hopefully you just hit a nerve and people will calm down.

  So anyways, of course you need to worry about $. Your job will end once you're DFd. Your home will be no more. And you have sacrificed development of job skills and a career because of wts teachings. So now what?

  Personally, I had to save for a while before I could escape. I had to hide money because of financial abuse. I hid income from my job.

  Start looking for a job right now. Do the best you can and just don't work for dubs. Establish a credit history if you don't have one, so you can lease an apartment. Then get the cheapest one you can find.

  You will need some sort of long term financial plan, so if you can't find a decent job right now, go to your local community college, trade school or Labor Department and ask for guidance. Then start taking whatever courses or trade classes you can take.

  Social losses are serious too, so you will need to develop at least a small support network. Think. Who would support you? Neighbors? Worldly coworkers? Join meetup.com and start meeting other people. You can go to the library and do that for free.

  Next, make a list of what you want in the long term. What is your personal vision of "a life worth living"? Then start taking baby steps toward being happy, being a good person, and contributing positively to the world around you.

  You got this.
  
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  So , how "worldly" did you get?

  by greenhornet in

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  2. experiences

  i even hate to use that word worldly tm.. any way i'm probably the worst.. 1 when the jw s come to my door i say i'm not interested .

  2 i have gone to many churches and volunteered.. 3 i shredded all my jw books and magazines out in the woods.. 4 had the mormon elders over and studied with them.. 5 tried pot (its legal here).

  6 open carry my fire arm every where (legal here also).

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  VERY!
  
  1 I own not one but TWO demonic windchimes
  
  2 I do not obey my husband
  
  3 I went to college
  
  4 I wear skirts that show my kneecaps
  
  5 I decide for myself what I am going to believe
  
  6 I take jehoho's name in vain, and often
  
  7 I stay in hotels not approved by The Society
  
  8 I vote
  
  10 I say The Pledge
  
  11 I hold leadership positions over men
  
  12 I do yoga
  
  13 I accept blood products
  
  14 I served on jury duty
  
  15 I got married in a church
  
  16 I support gay marriage
  
  17 I toast
  
  18 I've gambled
  
  19 I listen to holiday music
  
  20 I have piercings
  
  21 I have read books from other religions, including witchcrafts
  
  22 And finally, I talk to all you disfellowshipped people
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  Need to vent: My loathing for the JW cult increases more and more, while my wife clings more and more to it

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
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  just as i think my loathing for the jw cult has peaked, it goes higher and higher.

  i wish this cult would just go away.

  i wish my wife would just wake up.

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  And IMHO you should definitely stop enabling.

  I wouldn't call helping someone get ready for the meetings "caretaking".

  It's enabling, comparable to buying an alcoholic beer.

  You don't have to block the driveway when she tries to leave for the meetings, but you sure as hell don't need to help her get ready.
  
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  Need to vent: My loathing for the JW cult increases more and more, while my wife clings more and more to it

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just as i think my loathing for the jw cult has peaked, it goes higher and higher.

  i wish this cult would just go away.

  i wish my wife would just wake up.

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  rebel8

  I don't believe people "have to figure it out on their own". I say get out the cheese grater.

  "Hey hon, I would like to do a daily reading of the bible together, without literature or anything else, just god's word. Except I would like to choose the scriptures. Would you be willing to do that?"

  Then pick all scriptures from evilbible.com.
  
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  Where are the EXJW Feminist Philosophers?

  by Luther bertrand in

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  2. scandals

  i am working, more in the planning stages, where i am going to offer a commentary on the caleb and sophia cartoons that the org puts out.

  i noticed a heavily patriarchal bent to the narrative that these cartoons offer.

  i would really enjoy working with someone who has an academic background in feminist philosophy, or at least someone knowledgeable.

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  We can all agree the jw cult is misogynistic in the past, present and future.

  For those who are trying to reduce the future growth of the cult and shrink it now, publicizing the misogyny is an effective tool. It is also important for the personal growth of ex-cultists.
  

  It would be a shame to allow external debates to drown out this important cult issue.

  Comments about how annoying other extremists are seem to have no place in this thread.

  It saddens me that nearly every discussion on the Internet that aims to discuss egalitarianism degrades into this same old crap.

  
  
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  I heard a knock on the door, and...

  by rebel8 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ..."we are"--at this point i began shaking my head no--"stopping by to share a scripture.".

  she had the wt and bible in her hand.. "please do not come to this house ever again.".

  "ok we will put you on the do not call list.

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  I am decidedly not non-confrontational. I just fail to care about helping a current cultist who believes it strongly enough to engage in recruitment.

  Mainly, it's because I know the help-one-person-at-a-time approach is SO much less effective than prevention efforts.

  I suppose I am helping the individual a little bit by having a firm answer instead of just not answering the door or saying, "No thank you." She certainly knows I object to her message, at least.

  Also, it was in the middle of my workday.