Posts by rebel8

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Islam is a religion of peace (2)

by Coded Logic in

in behalf of the horrific events of saturday night, i just wanted to take a moment to remind everyone that islam is a religion of peace.

it doesn’t matter that the quran explicitly says that homosexuals should be stoned to death (7:84) - it’s still a religion of peace.

and it doesn’t matter that the scriptures say that all gay men should be killed (sunan 1:152) - islam doesn’t in anyway condone violence.. it doesn’t matter that every mainstream imam calls homosexuality a sin "worse the adultery" - it’s not a religion of bigotry.. it doesn’t matter that 61% of muslims in the uk think gay acts should be made illegal - islam has nothing against the gay community.. it doesn’t matter that countries with sharia law actively persecute the lgbt community - islam is all about peace and love.

rebel8

Just had an exasperating, cognitive dissonance-filled discussion.

I was told:

The bible does not say homosexuals should be killed.

Leviticus 20:13; Genesis 19

The only reason hate crimes are done is because the person is filled with hate, not because the hate is fueled by religion. Religions do not teach us to hate or kill homosexuals.

http://www.missionislam.com/knowledge/homosexuality.htm

I totally object to whitewashing religions. Society doesn't benefit from pretending religion is something it's not.

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Can a Person Resign From Being One of Jehovah’s Witnesses? (JW.org FAQ)

by Da.Furious in

found this in my rss feed of, as new faq on jw.org:.

the answer was .

a person can resign from our organization in two ways:.

rebel8

However, the elders are not authorized to coerce or pressure someone to remain as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

Actually that's my favorite bit. This carefully crafted statement throws elders under the bus if anyone ever claims they were "pressured to remain a jw".

We all know pressuring someone, by use of threats and punishments, is standard operating procedure for elders--required, even--because not doing your due diligence to convince someone to stay in the borg makes you bloodguilty or lukewarm.

So now the elders are damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they do it, they're following the unwritten(?) rule and taking full blame for it. If they don't, they're not doing their job, can lose their rank and everlasting life.

The borg does really seem to have a publicist. This is masterful manipulation.

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EdenOne, Mrs. Eden & Son: DISASSOCIATED!

by EdenOne in

great news!.

we are free!.

as of the 9th of june, me and my dear wife mrs. eden handed over our letters of disassociation at bethel in portugal, thus making official our departure from the jehovah's witnesses.

rebel8

Sorry to be off topic, but I am fascinated by this! Sounds like Portugal has a good idea there--you must attend a 1-day presentation about the military or you can't ever have a government job. Seems fair.

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I feel frustrated

by BlackWolf in

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friends

hello all, things for the most part have been somewhat better for me because my parents haven't talked about baptism or anything recently.

i got a scholarship to go to art camp for a few weeks which has been fun (since its free, my parents didn't refuse) but it has also been very nervewracking for me.

i haven't been around any non jws for more than a year and its like being in a different world, a world where people are actually real and genuine and not mindless drones.

rebel8

Yeah, just be yourself and let them like you for who you are. When things get awkward, explain it in a matter-of-fact way and move on. "My parents are super religious and don't allow me to see movies. I don't agree with them and I don't plan to be like them once I move out of their house, but for now, I have to do what they say. Tell me more about Harry Potter!"

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Can a Person Resign From Being One of Jehovah’s Witnesses? (JW.org FAQ)

by Da.Furious in

found this in my rss feed of, as new faq on jw.org:.

the answer was .

a person can resign from our organization in two ways:.

rebel8

That's quite a steaming load.

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EdenOne, Mrs. Eden & Son: DISASSOCIATED!

by EdenOne in

great news!.

we are free!.

as of the 9th of june, me and my dear wife mrs. eden handed over our letters of disassociation at bethel in portugal, thus making official our departure from the jehovah's witnesses.

rebel8

Congratulations for leaving that blasted cult.

Question--isn't attendance compulsory and jws are not exempt? From <<that link, I see nothing objectionable to jw beliefs. You just show up and they tell you all about being in the military? What am I missing?

Attendance to the DDN is a military duty for all Portuguese citizens over 18 years old.

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The Martian movie "ex JW one of the actors"

by James Mixon in

donald glover raised a jw...

rebel8

It is natural to have another actor D. Glover come to mind. The OP did not mention race.

He played a jw on a popular TV show recently, and the show got a few details wrong.

Now the Internet is saying he really was a jw. Interesting.

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Can't get a trolley cart? Use your car instead.

by cleanideas in

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rebel8

I knew some who used to skulk around large parking lots and stick literature on the windshields. They avoided being seen doing this and talking to people directly.

One person I remember doing this barely attended meetings but felt it was jehocker's command to preach, so she had to. Sad.

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EXPOSED: JWS TRAWL DEATH NOTICES TO TARGET GRIEVING RELATIVES

by steve2 in

the leading metropolitan newspaper in new zealand, the dominion-post, yesterday front-paged confirmation that jws target grieving persons by trawling through obituaries for names of relatives and - unbelievably - even visiting cemeteries to approach persons tending graves (the article cites a recent watchtower that presented the experience of a sister who did just that).. an ex-jw elder and his wife (both unknown to me) were featured in the article after approaching the newspaper in response to a local elder's denial last week that witnesses deliberately obtain relatives' names from obituaries.. this is the third featured article in just over one week - and, to date, the most prominent.. of interest a "senior" elder from the sydney, australia bethel (which now has oversight over jws in new zealand) is quoted as not denying it happens - but tried to put a less damning spin on it by stating it was something that was up to individual witnesses and is not expected.

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https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/80708572/former-jehovahs-witness-admits-we-targeted-grief-stricken-as-ripe-fruit&sa=u&ved=0ahukewi7uj6rkpnnahvkkzqkhv9cc3cqfggfmaa&client=internal-uds-cse&usg=afqjcnepqqzpj-nokxj6e5jyw5nsd9lc1q.

rebel8

This was a thing in the wts home state.

I think it was taught to us in pioneer school, and isn't it one of those books from the 90s that tell you how to get your time in? Not the Reasoning book, but something along those lines, IIRC.

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In the paradise JWs will have a standard uniform

by RodrigoGuerreiro in

anyone else notice this on the last video of the regional convention 2016?.

frame stills:.

conclusion: it seems that the paradise will not be only the end of wickedness but also the end of the jws typical cheap polyester suits :-p.

rebel8

The likeness to Star Trek TNG is now the only thing I like about TNS.